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You are reading page 7 of You Lie!. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

lol, thanks for that video! It's amazing how quickly folks put these things together.:yeah:

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Since this is the "lie" thread . . . . here are more "lies" or at least misrepresentations. :wink2:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574409501904118682.html

To highlight abusive practices, Mr. Obama referred to an Illinois man who "lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because his insurer found he hadn't reported gallstones that he didn't even know about." The president continued: "They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it."

Although the president has used this example previously, his conclusion is contradicted by the transcript of a June 16 hearing on industry practices before the Subcommittee of Oversight and Investigation of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. The deceased's sister testified that the insurer reinstated her brother's coverage following intervention by the Illinois Attorney General's Office. She testified that her brother received a prescribed stem-cell transplant within the desired three- to four-week "window of opportunity" from "one of the most renowned doctors in the whole world on the specific routine," that the procedure "was extremely successful," and that "it extended his life nearly three and a half years."

The president's second example was a Texas woman "about to get a double mastectomy when her insurance company canceled her policy because she forgot to declare a case of acne." He said that "By the time she had her insurance reinstated, her breast cancer more than doubled in size."

The woman's testimony at the June 16 hearing confirms that her surgery was delayed several months. It also suggests that the dermatologist's chart may have described her skin condition as precancerous, that the insurer also took issue with an apparent failure to disclose an earlier problem with an irregular heartbeat, and that she knowingly underreported her weight on the application.

These two cases are presumably among the most egregious identified by Congressional staffers' analysis of 116,000 pages of documents from three large health insurers, which identified a total of about 20,000 rescissions from millions of policies issued by the insurers over a five-year period. Company representatives testified that less than one half of one percent of policies were rescinded (less than 0.1% for one of the companies).

If existing laws and litigation governing rescission are inadequate, there clearly are a variety of ways that the states or federal government could target abuses without adopting the president's agenda for federal control of health insurance, or the creation of a government health insurer. . . .

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From the Daily Show:

Apothecary Now

After Obama grabs the reins of the health care debate, Joe Wilson heckles him in front of a joint session of Congress.

From the Colbert Report:

Conservatives Are Back

Barack Obama's speech on health care reform is so moving it almost fools Lindsey Graham into clapping.

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According to former Pres. Carter, Wilson's "you lie" is racist. Since when does not agreeing with the President mean one is racist? I see the Dems throwing around race just like some of the conservatives. I couldnt give a flying flip about what color Obama's skin is, I hate his policies so far, not him. Does that make me racist?

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Regardless of political party, it is inappropriate behavior and conduct befitting a member of Government when the President addresses the joint. It is not a Mr Wilson day, nor should it be his "moment"...a moment created and used by him to capitalize on. It is the President's day, his moment, to address them in total....not Mr Wilson to make a complete ass of himself.

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According to former Pres. Carter, Wilson's "you lie" is racist. Since when does not agreeing with the President mean one is racist? I see the Dems throwing around race just like some of the conservatives. I could give a flying flip about what color Obama's skin is, I hate his policies so far, not him. Does that make me racist?

We can send a respectful email or fax to Pres. Carter explaining why we think his comments are wrong. I don't agree with most of President Obama's policies and I am not racist.

carterweb@emory.edu (Attn: President Carter) or FAX TO: 404-331-0283

steph

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From the Colbert Report:

Conservatives Are Back

Barack Obama's speech on health care reform is so moving it almost fools Lindsey Graham into clapping.

"Somebody at the Wall Street Journal lost a fiddle contest to Dick Cheney."

I had never before watched even ten seconds of Colbert. He uses humor to tell liberals that they are smarter and better than everyone else. And that, of course, conservatives are the devil (and racist).

I do not mean this as hateful: Liberals are in a different universe than conservatives. I don't see how the two sides will ever agree on much of anything.

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The House of Representatives on Tuesday formally admonished Republican Rep. Joe Wilson for shouting "you lie" during President Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress last week.

According to the Office of the House Historian, it was the first time in its 220-year history that the House has disciplined a member for speaking out during a presidential speech in the chamber to a joint session of Congress.

During debate on the resolution, Wilson called the measure a waste of time and failed to apologize to the chamber, as demanded by House Democrats.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/15/wilson.resolution/index.html

I truly believe he should and needs to apologize to "the chamber"...for failing to adhere to the protocol of his office. It was not only a sign of disrespect to the elected President, but to every member sitting in that chamber as well.

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I am not racist.

It doesn't matter if you're racist or not. That's not the point. The point is to put you on defense and have to actually say, "I am not racist".

"Racist" is just more name-calling. It will never end as long as there is even one far-left liberal alive.

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It will never end as long as there is even one far-right conservative alive.

This is also very true.

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Even in politics, opposites both repel and attract each other. Without the one, the other has no meaning.

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It will never end as long as there is even one far-right conservative alive.

This is also very true.

Thunderwolf, I suppose you have a point. Far out there anything is usually not good. I just do not consider any name-calling by any side acceptable. Probably I'm more sensitive when my side is on the receiving end.

Even in politics, opposites both repel and attract each other. Without the one, the other has no meaning.

And this is also wisdom (even from a liberal, lol). I truly would not want a nation controlled by just one side (like we have now, and like we had with President Bush and the so-called Republicans).

Sorry if I came across as harsh. I simply despise name-calling.

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