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I'm agreeing with Jolie!!:lol2:

I know!! Isn't it crazy ingelein? :D

Psalm . . . . we thought for awhile about adopting since our oldest son left for college when our youngest was 1 and our second left when he was 3 and our daughter is leaving in a few months (she graduates from high school) and he will be 7. (wow - time flies).

We gave some thought to his status as an only child . . . but he sees his siblings a lot so. . .

steph

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So, I can't have an SUV but she can have 18, 19 or 20 kids??

No, I'm saying you can't cry about the environmental impact of someone having 18 kids and drive a carbon-spewing SUV.

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Interesting thread -

I am the oldest of 4 - my mom had her tubes tied for 9 years in between #2 and #3, otherwise, I am sure there would be more of us.

Also - as someone who experienced that whole back to the Bible, Full Quiver, Simple Living lifestyle, I have to say is does amaze me that we make this much of a fuss over people who are trying to make a decent life for themselves and their children.

I can also say that one of the families we were aquainted with ended very badly (Dad convinced all 13 kids that Mom was bad and oldest adopted daughter was going to be the mom and marry him).

Until something bad about them IS exposed, I think we should live and let live, while being as responsible as we can with our lives and resources.

PS. What is an anchor baby?

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So much anger about this.

I cannot even remember the number of G12-G13s that I have seen with one huge difference. They had custody of NONE of their DRUG ADDICTED, PREMATURE infants. These kids are farmed out over any number of states, Now how do you feel about the expenses of wharehousing these kids in group homes? Their health care and counseling? If a family does finally get to adopt them they get huge tax breaks.

Just wondering.

I just cannot understand the vehemence about this family who has many children that they love and care for.

JMHO

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I can see the points of many respondents, but I have to land on the side of the environmentalists. Every single person DOES have an impact on the world. But it's disturbing to me that a few people on here just blow off any overpopulation or environmental concerns. What will it take to get some people to care?!?! I just don't get it.

Actually, the sheer disregard for the environment by many has really, really surprised me.

I shared this thread with many friends, family and co-workers who are just as amazed.

If you want to watch a great show, see if you can see The Human Footprint:

http://wcs.org/humanfootprint/

They only follow the waste, consumption and destruction of TWO people.

The grossest part: Some of the facts: 18 billion disposable diapers are thrown in landfills each year, taking as many as 500 years to decompose. Disposable diapers make up the third largest source of solid waste in landfills, after newspapers and food and beverage containers-a significant fact, considering they are a single product, used by a limited portion of the population.

Anyway, I am very pro-environment, so this will be my last post. Pro Mega-Population people and I will never agree.

See ya!

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i'm not sure why this subject always brings out such deep . . . feelings. i would never tell anyone who chooses to be childless that there is something wrong with them. why the opposite? steph

those of us who are childless by choice thank you :) , because many people do not share your restraint. i am frequently told that there is something wrong with me because i neither have kids nor want them.

p.s. jim bob made a remark on national tv when his 14th was born that he was finding sex with michelle "felt different because she probably needed an operation to make her tighter due to all the births, but sex for us is all about procreation and not just enjoyment." :icon_roll

you know, i have always found him to be ... creepy. it isn't something i can really put a finger on, and it is purely my opinion, but there is something in his attitude that has always bothered me. arrogance, maybe? that quote fits right in with my gut feeling about him. from what (admittedly) little i know about him, i'm pretty confident that he and i would not get along.

:offtopic:

ps. what is an anchor baby?

i'm not certain, but (since no one else has answered) i think it is where a foreigner deliberately has a baby in the us so that the infant will be a citizen. i think it encompasses many classes of people, from illegal immigrants to people here on work visas (i see it often in some of the foreign nurses i work with), to wealthy women from other countries that fly here to give birth, but never live here.

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I have mixed feelings about all of this. That is a lot of kids, but this is America and we do have many personal freedoms. I guess what I find most objectionable about this family and the sextuplet twin familiy is that we have this reality tv which puts these folks up for all to see. When you do that, you subject yourself to lots of criticism and people do form opinions about you and what you do. I recently took care of a Mennonite lady who had many children. I think she was having # 14 or 15. She was a lovely patient. Her kids from age 21 down to age 4 came in a couple of hours after delivery. They had to finish their farmwork and school before they could come in. This was a very low key family. They didn't want lots of attention. They were simple people who lived a simple lifestyle and were not in your face with their large family.

The Duggers and sextuplet/twin family John&Kate (what is their last name???) have chosen to make themselves exhibitions by putting themselves all over tv. The Dugger mama made sure she announced this new pregnancy on the tv (which she and her family don't watch right?) around Mother's Day to draw even more attention to herself. They have a whole website with lots of trivia about them (someone here had the link up in an earlier posting). They want lots of attention and they get it, including people who don't like what they are doing. I haven't ever watched more than a minute or so of the show because I really am turned off by them. It really is not so much by their large family, but by their exhibitionism.

I do like to watch the shows they have on about the Dilley sextuplets because they just seem a lot more normal and humble. They have talked honstly about depression, struggling with finances, etc. Mom and dad seem like nice normal imperfect people. To me, at least, they are not the show offs that the Duggers and the John &Kate family. There is more of a balance with media attention and curiousity re. their unusual family and their need to have a normal family life. I am sure they, too get $ for their appearances, but they are not so grossly over-exposed as the other two. The Dilley parents actually seem to have some common sense.

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I agree. When you expose yourself to national television via a reality show then you have to accept that you're going to become targets of criticism. It comes with the territory of not only being a celebrity, but especially with reality TV. Some people have learned the hard way how awful that might be (think Kelly Osborne who dropped out of her reality show because she couldn't handle the scrutiny. But people like Jessica Simpson used it to her advantage - not long after her statement about Chicken of the Sea (is it tuna or chicken) people roasted her alive, and she laughed at herself and become an even bigger star). Actually producers love it because it gets people talking about their show. I never heard of these guys until this thread.

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I'm not sure why this subject always brings out such deep . . . feelings. I would never tell anyone who chooses to be childless that there is something wrong with them. Why the opposite?

steph

You never criticize a childless person and because you don't, you expect others won't criticize them or the multi-child couple? Hmmm....o.k. :lol2:

I can understand that a couple that chooses to not have children for ethical reasons would have a slight criticism or two to someone having their 18th child.

I work with a 30 year-old single woman and her peers are relentless in "you gotta find a man and have a baby....or forget the man and have a baby".

On the internet people are extremely quick to judge and criticize, and can be quite harsh with it.

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I have mixed feelings about all of this. That is a lot of kids, but this is America and we do have many personal freedoms. I guess what I find most objectionable about this family and the sextuplet twin familiy is that we have this reality tv which puts these folks up for all to see. When you do that, you subject yourself to lots of criticism and people do form opinions about you and what you do. I recently took care of a Mennonite lady who had many children. I think she was having # 14 or 15. She was a lovely patient. Her kids from age 21 down to age 4 came in a couple of hours after delivery. They had to finish their farmwork and school before they could come in. This was a very low key family. They didn't want lots of attention. They were simple people who lived a simple lifestyle and were not in your face with their large family.

The Duggers and sextuplet/twin family John&Kate (what is their last name???) have chosen to make themselves exhibitions by putting themselves all over tv. The Dugger mama made sure she announced this new pregnancy on the tv (which she and her family don't watch right?) around Mother's Day to draw even more attention to herself. They have a whole website with lots of trivia about them (someone here had the link up in an earlier posting). They want lots of attention and they get it, including people who don't like what they are doing. I haven't ever watched more than a minute or so of the show because I really am turned off by them. It really is not so much by their large family, but by their exhibitionism.

I do like to watch the shows they have on about the Dilley sextuplets because they just seem a lot more normal and humble. They have talked honstly about depression, struggling with finances, etc. Mom and dad seem like nice normal imperfect people. To me, at least, they are not the show offs that the Duggers and the John &Kate family. There is more of a balance with media attention and curiousity re. their unusual family and their need to have a normal family life. I am sure they, too get $ for their appearances, but they are not so grossly over-exposed as the other two. The Dilley parents actually seem to have some common sense.

I couldn't agree more. They've exposed themselves, on a medium they claim to be corrupt no less, so now people are talking.

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you know, i have always found him to be ... creepy. it isn't something i can really put a finger on, and it is purely my opinion, but there is something in his attitude that has always bothered me. arrogance, maybe? that quote fits right in with my gut feeling about him. from what (admittedly) little i know about him, i'm pretty confident that he and i would not get along.

i agree.

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I'm not a mother but I am a child so I do have an opinion from a child's point of view, a child who grew up only partially responsible for a younger sibling.

I don't feel anyone should dictate how many children the Duggars should have but they as parents brought these children into this world as their responsibility.

Mama Duggar says that each older child is assigned one or two younger children to take care of. When there's a newborn, she is the baby's primary caregiver until the baby is weaned then the baby gets an older child assigned to it.

The media portrays her as a saint because she home schools all of these children. But I ask, if she sends all of her kids to school, she'll be home all day with a baby, a one year old, a two year old, a three year old, and so on. Why would she send the people who do all the laundry, cleaning, cooking and looking after the younger siblings to school all day?

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