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Winning...the economy under Trump

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12 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

You do realize Obama was President in November 2016?

From Sept 2015 through all 2016 and the first few months of Trumps administration is 18 months.

 

Yes, but you seemed to criticize Obama for having a plateau and I was merely pointing out that Trump had a plateaus as well.  But looking back it was not a point to make.  

The main point was that Obama went from ten to that plateau and Trump got to take over from there.  He had some plateaus but continued an established trend for it going lower over time.  I bet if Obama had a third term his numbers would be similar to Trumps.  But Trump does get the bragging rights and he should.  Like I said, not much else going for him.  But when it's the bottom line in a lot of people's lives, it matters almost more than anything.

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58 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Yes, but you seemed to criticize Obama for having a plateau and I was merely pointing out that Trump had a plateaus as well.  But looking back it was not a point to make.  

The main point was that Obama went from ten to that plateau and Trump got to take over from there.  He had some plateaus but continued an established trend for it going lower over time.  I bet if Obama had a third term his numbers would be similar to Trumps.  But Trump does get the bragging rights and he should.  Like I said, not much else going for him.  But when it's the bottom line in a lot of people's lives, it matters almost more than anything.

Obama does get some credit.  

However, I don’t believe for one second that Obama, without cutting taxes, without massive deregulation, etc. would have the same result.  You’re pretty much saying the economy is thriving despite Trump and the things he’s done.

More importantly now, is to consider what will happen if the Democrats take back the WH and congress?  What kind of effect will have on the economy with the things they want to do?

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Even Forbes addressed the Trump friendly employment spin last year.  

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9 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Obama does get some credit.  

However, I don’t believe for one second that Obama, without cutting taxes, without massive deregulation, etc. would have the same result.  You’re pretty much saying the economy is thriving despite Trump and the things he’s done.

More importantly now, is to consider what will happen if the Democrats take back the WH and congress?  What kind of effect will have on the economy with the things they want to do?

One can only speculate.  Democrats like Kennedy (who inherited a recession from Republican Eisenhower),  Clinton and Obama in my lifetime seem to have had good economies.  People like Raegan and Bush, Jr. had high unemployment while cutting taxes and regulations.  Of course Carter had his economic issues with the oil embargo and inflation.  

Bottom line for me is I'm willing to take my chances.  I'm still a capitalist at heart and would be concerned at high-tax Bernie or another socialist, but at least we'd have a President of integrity and honesty.

I also never said the economy was doing well despite Trump, but that in a hypothetical world Obama probably would have continued the many months drops in the unemployment rate that he started.  I said that Trump had bragging rights.  

I've said many times that Trump's economy is doing well.  

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7 hours ago, nursej22 said:

You also don't want to be selling lobsters in Maine.

Did you hear the NPR story, about the woman in Maine, who lost over 50% of her business, selling lobsters to China, because of Trump policies?

Her sales have now gone to Canada.

She said she most likely will be forced to CLOSE her business.

I doubt she will vote Trump in 2020!!!

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57 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

Have you ever desired to be a soybean farmer?

I do enjoy growing things, but growing up around farms, I learned that I am not cut out for that level of physical work, plus the uncertainty of weather and markets on one's income. 

But, then again, I can't say I ever dreamed I would be in the job am now. At least, I know my income is not dependent on the whims of a senile, narcissistic grifter. 

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41 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

I do enjoy growing things, but growing up around farms, I learned that I am not cut out for that level of physical work, plus the uncertainty of weather and markets on one's income. 

But, then again, I can't say I ever dreamed I would be in the job am now. At least, I know my income is not dependent on the whims of a senile, narcissistic grifter. 

Well, luckily under the senile narcissist grifter our unemployment rate is the lowest in 50 years, and for many demographics the lowest ever.

While I have big concerns how all the tariffs effect our economy, it’s a bit different with China.  They are our enemy.  That’s not an area I feel super knowledgeable about, but tariffs might be a necessary evil with them.

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8 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Well, luckily under the senile narcissist grifter our unemployment rate is the lowest in 50 years, and for many demographics the lowest ever.

While I have big concerns how all the tariffs effect our economy, it’s a bit different with China.  They are our enemy.  That’s not an area I feel super knowledgeable about, but tariffs might be a necessary evil with them.

China is our enemy, but Russia isn't?!

 

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