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I really want to know what people think these are.

It seems not to be the same as a party platform.

What do you think the conservative agenda is?

The liberal agenda?

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The liberal agenda includes, but is not exclusive to, the following policies:

1.– Emboldening and nurturing terrorists.

2.– Killing Jesus (H. Christ), our one true savior, and weakening the nation’s moral fiber by any means… especially eliminating prayer in schools.

3.– Passing out condoms and preaching safe sex to our children, thus creating a new Sodom and Gomorrah.

4.– Forcing the President to consult the U.N. every time he needs to take a crap.

5.– Insuring that America is subject to France in every way.

6.– Putting an abortion in every home.

7.– Making the New York Times required reading in schools.

8.– Electing Bill Maher to the presidency. (Vice-President? Al Franken.)

9.– Leaving no stem cell alive.

10.– Raising Hillary Clinton to the status of patron saint.

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These can probably only be described in broad strokes and likely aren't too terribly different than the 2-3 party system platforms we have anyhow.

FWIW and IMO, the conservative agenda is to instill fear, hate and loathing at the mere mention of the existence of any liberal agenda.

And hating it doesn't mean they're able to articulate it any more than I have...

I appreciate trying to draw members out and encouraging them to post more of what they really believe rather than copy/pasting from talking heads.

Sorry i don't have a better answer!

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these can probably only be described in broad strokes and likely aren't too terribly different than the 2-3 party system platforms we have anyhow.

fwiw and imo, the conservative agenda is to instill fear, hate and loathing at the mere mention of the existence of any liberal agenda.

and hating it doesn't mean they're able to articulate it any more than i have...

i appreciate trying to draw members out and encouraging them to post more of what they really believe rather than copy/pasting from talking heads.

sorry i don't have a better answer!

that isn't my definition of my conservative beliefs.

steph

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Actually I wrote this back in a post in 2008. Funny how it is coming to pass....

A day in the life of a liberal.

I wake up every morning at 5 am, of course I do not need an alarm clock the Muslim call to prayer from the Mosque down the street wakes everyone up at 5 am. It is cold this morning but I cannot turn up the heat because Secretary of Energy Al Gore will not allow us to set our thermostats above 65 in the winter. If I do, the government van can drive by and turn it down automatically and send me a ticket for having too large a carbon foot print. Funny though how it is freezing in July with global warming. Oh well they say it is getting warmer and everyone knows those Hollywood stars know everything. I turn on the news, I still cannot get used to the naked news. Ever since the government stopped putting prohibitions on the broadcasters in the name of free speech it has gotten harder to let my kids watch TV. They say that I am just being a prude but I still think something are best left as they were. I see where there was another car bombing last night. I hope this will not interrupt my bus ride into town. Ever since they stopped all profiling of people and only stop 90 year old ladies to search them, there has been an increase in "Homeland" disputes, we used to call them terrorist attacks and they always happened elsewhere in the world but now they happen here in my hometown. Oh, I see the attack occurred outside the police station. Well ever since we invited the UN troops in as peace keepers since the UN considered our police forces racist for capturing criminals, and disarmed our police, I feel so much safer, I just wish I could just stop watching the movie Hotel Rwanda and seeing ho effective the UN was there.

I catch my bus to work, of course I cannot afford a car because the taxes now on it, but that is ok. I really like waiting for a bus in the blizzards. I just hope there is no "homeland" dispute attack at my stop. I see Sally got a new BMW to drive. That is good her welfare was increased after having that 6th child out of wedlock. I am so glad that now she does not have to feel oppressed and looked down upon for letting the government pay for everything for her. I am so glad my increased taxes are going to good things. I realize the tax burden is higher now because the government forced so many big businesses out of business and broke them up, and now they are closed an no money is coming in from them and more people are now unemployed, but hey the President said that big business is bad and he will save us and to have hope.

I get to the hospital to work my shift and guess what? They closed it down. They said that there was not enough money in the universal healthcare fund to continue paying for this facility and so they are going to have to ration health care again. I wonder if this is going to affect my getting that bypass I need. I am on the waiting list. They said that I should get it next year sometime. I just hope these old drugs continue to do the work. Ever since Pharma was forced to cut their costs there are no new drugs.

Well I guess I better get home then, I see there are lines of "displaced migratory" workers again. I am so happy that the congress decided to take down those nasty borders we had and allow everyone in our country. Just that I hear the muslim terrorists..opps I mean the PC term people of the peace loving Islamic faith that like to commit attacks are coming across the same way. Well I say the more the merrier and I am so happy that the EU is sending relief workers here to help with displaced Americans and putting them in refugee camps. I am so happy to be a liberal American

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Smart spending that yields evidence based results for society. (For example universal preschool......This saves 8 dollars in the future for every dollar spent today.)

Retirement security for all through a combination of Defined Benefit pensions, thrift savings plans and SS. (Tax policies encourage rather than discourage DB pensions.)

Eliminate preferential treatments for dividends, and capital gains. (Unearned income should be taxed at the same rate as the middle class.) True progressive taxation to reduce extreme inequality.

A general attitude that "We are all in this together"

The economy serves people (not the other way around.)

Real energy independence based on renewable energy sources. (Including broadly owned and distributed energy companies.)

Health care is a basic human right. (non profit and providers are competing for patients based on quality.) (Evidence based care and a prevention oriented focus.)

A true marketplace of ideas (Limits on corporate ownership of media companies and ISPs with net neutrality.)

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FWIW and IMO, the conservative agenda is to instill fear, hate and loathing at the mere mention of the existence of any liberal agenda.

And hating it doesn't mean they're able to articulate it any more than I have...

I appreciate trying to draw members out and encouraging them to post more of what they really believe....

So, by referring to the conservative agenda as an instiller of fear, hate, and loathing, this is encouraging conservatives to post what they really believe? This is the way to encourage dialogue?

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So, by referring to the conservative agenda as an instiller of fear, hate, and loathing,

I think you left something out there.......

like the rest of the sentence that came right after those words

but what's the diff, right? Context/shmontext...

Herring asked a specific question about the meaning of conservative/liberal 'agenda' and how it's not the same thing as a party's platform.

100% correct--it's not.

The only time people even use the word agenda is when trying to trash the opposition. Think about it. And they're never made to define what it means either, just pairing the words up makes it seem scary and sinister and all plot-like when you say it. What I wrote is accurate. The only big ® agenda I find is the one highlighting how scary the (D) one will be. Could be vice/versa if only way to compute.

So, in another thread I learn that I used a hateful conservative smear back in this one ----Really, I did?

Now, seems whatever i wrote above doesn't actually define somebody else's conservative beliefs----C'mon, get out!!

Enough already---the willful misunderstanding thing happening here is ridiculous.

I remain appreciative of Herring's topic though and my encouragement was directed there. I suspect conservatives here already do post their true beliefs. I can't imagine much still hidden.

But again, I don't think there's clarity as to OP question...

Edited by Miss Mab

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Perhaps we're saying the same thing. I don't know. I started getting dizzy after about the 5th time trying to understand what you wrote.

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I have to agree with Ms. Mab that when people spew out the word "agenda" it's not with kindness.

I have to disagree with Ms. Mab "the conservative agenda is to instill fear, hate and loathing at the mere mention of the existence of any liberal agenda." because for the average conservative American that isn't true. However, I can appreciate those feelings because politicans and conservative bloggers do exactly that. (Liberal politicians and liberal bloggers do the same). I also agree with Pierrette that starting off the thread this way probably wasn't a good idea. That's all I'm going to say.

For the average American we pretty much want the same things....jobs, health, education for our kids, safety etc. Where we differ is how we go about these things.

My liberal agenda is this: universal and equality in health care (of course the rich may pay for better services should they choose, but the poor shouldn't have unsafe healthcare), an end to the wars and a decrease in military spending, job creation through responsible and green programs, immigration reform that stops illegal immigration while acknowledging the contribution of immigrants whom have been here for years and contributing to society, a clean environment and expansion of clean energy alternatives, equality for same-sex partnerships, an end of the ban on homosexuals in the military, tax reform that offers no special breaks that in the end penalizes the middle class............to to name a few, there's more.

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My liberal agenda is this: universal and equality in health care (of course the rich may pay for better services should they choose, but the poor shouldn't have unsafe healthcare), an end to the wars and a decrease in military spending, job creation through responsible and green programs, immigration reform that stops illegal immigration while acknowledging the contribution of immigrants whom have been here for years and contributing to society, a clean environment and expansion of clean energy alternatives, equality for same-sex partnerships, an end of the ban on homosexuals in the military, tax reform that offers no special breaks that in the end penalizes the middle class............to to name a few, there's more.

My big conservative agenda is everyone who is physically able should carry their own weight. When I was young, I was as poor as anyone. I decided I didn't like being poor, so I got an education, and now I support those who won't. I'm all for helping anyone help themselves, but not for helping those who refuse to help themselves. And, if everyone carried their own weight, then a lot of the healthcare problem solves itself.

I have no sympathy for illegals, lazy people, drug dealers/users. I see these people in the ER all the time. The mother/nurse in me cares for them....I just try not to think about their abusing the system.

As far as good people needing abortions, gay rights, etc., I may not agree, but it's not a big thing to me.

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