Walmart and Dick's Raise Minimum Age for Gun Buyers to 21 - page 3

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  1. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from chare
    I think age discrimination is an interesting approach, and one that might actually be successful. At least they were intelligent enough to not claim a violation of his second amendment right.
    I imagine this person is being backed by the NRA. And if the suit moves forward, if the court follows Heller, nothing will happen.
  2. by   nursej22
    Quote from chare
    I think age discrimination is an interesting approach, and one that might actually be successful. At least they were intelligent enough to not claim a violation of his second amendment right.
    I agree, and yet I think the state of Oregon restricts the sale of alcohol, tobacco and marijuana to 21 year-olds. Perhaps the difference is one is the state and the other is a business?
  3. by   Lil Nel
    Also, we have seen that Trump supports discrimination. He urged the US Supreme Court to rule on the side of the cake maker who discriminated against the gay wedding couple.

    So, I hope this kid isn't looking to the WH for support.

    And as Nina Totenberg's piece stated, the US Supreme Court is loathe to take on gun cases.

    Here is yet another example of responsible gun ownership. Fortunately, the similar case here in KY brought charges against the parents. And that is something new. When I first moved here, and these shootings would come up, the parents weren't charged. Looks like OH is charging parents. Good!

    Prosecutor: After boy, 8, shot sister, mom went back to work - NY Daily News
  4. by   heron
    I get that the issue here is irresponsible storage that allows kids access to guns. However, the highlighting of the fact that she returned to work bothers me. She likely would have lost her job after taking an afternoon off to take care of a child. She won't be the first working class mom to get caught in that trap.

    I agree that parents who fail to secure guns properly, resulting in injured or dead kids, need to be charged. That being said, there's more to this story than meets the eye.
  5. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from heron
    I get that the issue here is irresponsible storage that allows kids access to guns. However, the highlighting of the fact that she returned to work bothers me. She likely would have lost her job after taking an afternoon off to take care of a child. She won't be the first working class mom to get caught in that trap.

    I agree that parents who fail to secure guns properly, resulting in injured or dead kids, need to be charged. That being said, there's more to this story than meets the eye.
    There probably is more to the story. But she also failed to seek medical treatment for the child who was shot.

    This isn't the kind of person who I want to continue to have unfettered access to guns. Clearly, there are problems.
  6. by   heron
    I agree, there are problems. I just get skeeved when working class women get scapegoated while their "betters" get off the hook because "they've suffered enough."

    It's the way of our world, especially these days, I know.
  7. by   chare
    Quote from Lil Nel
    I imagine this person is being backed by the NRA. And if the suit moves forward, if the court follows Heller, nothing will happen.
    The NRA might, or might not be behind this, I don't know. My personal opinion is that they aren't; if they were, I don't think they would approach it from the age discrimination perspective as they have generally been straight forward and aggressive in their defense of gun ownership.

    How exactly do you think Heller has any bearing whatsoever in this case?
    Last edit by chare on Mar 7
  8. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from chare
    The NRA might, or might not be behind this, I don't know. My personal opinion is that they aren't; if they were, I don't think they would approach it from the age discrimination perspective as they have generally been straight forward and aggressive in their defense of gun ownership.

    How exactly do you think Heller has any bearing whatsoever in this case?
    Well, I am not a lawyer, but since Heller clearly states that there is no absolute, unfettered right to own a gun, that restrictions can be placed on ownership, how does discrimination come into it?

    We are seeing more and more businesses, rightly or wrongly, like the cake baker, decide whom they will or won't sell their products to.

    And Trump has been busy dismantling anti-discrimination protections. So I think the kid will have a long, hard slog to prove his point.

    But it's just my opinion, and again, I am not a lawyer. Just my thoughts.
  9. by   Lil Nel
    This is a start in moving this country in the right direction. Now we will see if Governor Rick Scott will sign the bill. But clearly, GOP lawmakers in FL can read the tea leaves.


    Florida House Passes Gun Control Bill, Defying N.R.A. - The New York Times
  10. by   MunoRN
    The problem with the age discrimination argument is that there is no protection based on age in privately owned businesses that provide public accommodation and services. This would fall under the Civil Rights Act, which does provide some protections from being discriminated against as a customer by a business but not based on age. I don't know if there are local laws that would cover age discrimination against customers, but even there were it doesn't appear that this would be discrimination since the business could state a basis for the restriction that isn't merely based on a bias.
  11. by   itsybitsy
    Well one anti-gun senator won't be virtue signaling this time...

    Ex-California State Senator Leland Yee is going off to jail for five years for weapons trafficking. He was a very anti-gun politician. It seems he was building up his illegal gun business while trying to take guns away from innocent people. He also took bribes, laundered money, and so on.
    Anti-Gun Democrat Pol Leland Yee Goes Off to Jail for Gun Running
  12. by   herring_RN
    Years old news regarding that hypocrite.
  13. by   itsybitsy
    Quote from herring_RN
    Years old news regarding that hypocrite.
    He was just sentenced a week ago. He is now serving a 5 year sentence.

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