Trump is Racist? I Don't Think So

  1. President Trump has been accused of being a racist (and more recently a fascist) since before the beginnings of his presidency. Trump has been quoted as saying:

    "Why are we having all these people from ******** countries come here?" he is alleged of saying, suggesting the U.S. bring more immigrants from places like Norway, according to the Post."

    While the president normally does not renege on his foolish comments in the past, he has vehemently denied the allegations. Senator Dick Durbin, a democrat, made the initial accusation. There is no evidence that the claims were actually made.

    The claims that Trump is a racist stem from when he was running for office. The president has many many inflammatory comments (perhaps intentionally), but his actions say something much different. There are 124 presidential proclamations that have been signed since Trump has been president and here here are some of the civil rights and pro-diversity proclamations that Trump has signed thus far:

    Proclamation 9572: National African American History Month, 2017

    Proclamation 9595: Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, 2017

    Proclamation 9596: Jewish American Heritage Month, 2017

    Proclamation 9618: African-American Music Appreciation Month, 2017

    Proclamation 9620: National Caribbean-American Heritage Month, 2017

    Proclamation 9637: National Hispanic Heritage Month, 2017

    Proclamation 9669: National Native American Heritage Month, 2017

    Proclamation 9685: Human Rights Day, Bill of Rights Day, and Human Rights Week, 2017

    Proclamation 9687: To Take Certain Actions under the African Growth and Opportunity Act and for Other Purposes

    Proclamation 9688: National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month, 2018

    Proclamation 9689: Martin Luther King, Jr., Federal Holiday

    H.R.2611: Little Rock Central High School National Historic Site Boundary Modification Act -An act to commemorate the first black students that integrated the little rock school system

    H.R.1927: African American Civil Rights Network Act of 2017

    H.R.1242: 400 Years of African-American History Commission Act

    H.R.267: Martin Luther King, Jr. National Historical Park Act of 2017

    There are many more, these are the most provocative. Those don't look like propositions that a racist would sign.

    So the question must be directed at the race critics as to how claims of Trump being a racist can continue, when they are based on hearsay, and his actions decidedly show otherwise. Since there is so much contradicting legislation that refutes the racism claims, perhaps the claims of fascism are a desperate attempt to continue the defamation of the president. Similar tactics were used by opponents of Obama.

    As they say actions speak louder words.

    Additional reading:
    Trump's real record on race may surprise you - Chicago Tribune

    Donald Trump, racial pioneer?

    -Keeping hate out of politics, and everyday life.-

    Last edit by AN Admin Team on Jul 4 : Reason: language
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  3. by   heron
    Yup - the midterms are coming!

    And so it begins ...
  4. by   Mr_Edwino
    When asked by Mike Wallace on 60 minutes how we are going to rid of racism Morgan Freeman eloquently yet sharply responded:

    " Stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man. And I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. I'm not going to say, {I know this white guy named Mike Wallace}, Hear what I'm saying?"

    Brilliant!
    Last edit by Mr_Edwino on Jul 2
  5. by   nursej22
    I will believe Trump is not racist when he stops referring to Mexicans as rapists, black athletes as SOBs, and non-Saudi Muslims as terrorists. And when he declares that White Nationalists are not very fine people.
  6. by   macawake
    Quote from heron
    Yup - the midterms are coming!
    Mmm, it's all too familiar.



    Quote from Mr_Edwino
    President Trump has been accused of being a racist (and more recently a fascist) since before the beginnings of his presidency. The claims that Trump is a racist stem from when he was running for office. The president has many many inflammatory comments (perhaps intentionally), but his actions say something much different.

    So the question must be directed at the race critics as to how claims of Trump being a racist can continue, when they are based on hearsay, and his actions decidedly show otherwise.
    What do his actions say?

    If you could explain one thing...

    You had forty-three Presidents and Trump never questioned where even a single one of them was born. Then the American people elect your forty-fourth President. Now Trump sends investigators to Hawaii and over a period of many years, gives multiple interviews stating that he questions whether or does not believe that number 44 was born in the U.S., which had it been true would have made him an illegitimate President.

    What was all that about?
    Last edit by macawake on Jul 2
  7. by   Mr_Edwino
    Quote from macawake
    What do his actions say?
    That the president is proactive in civil-rights legislation and works to acknowledge the heritage and history of all races in the United states as much as any other president, if not more so.



    Quote from macawake
    Mmm, it's all too familiar.





    What do his actions say?

    If you could explain one thing...

    You had forty-three Presidents and Trump never questioned where even a single one of them was born. Then the American people elect your forty-fourth President. Now Trump sends investigators to Hawaii and over a period of many years, gives multiple interviews stating that he does not believe that number 44 was born in the U.S., which had it been true would have made him an illegitimate President.

    What was all that about?
    Trump believed that Obama was not a legal citizen, but that is not a race issue. It is a coincidence that Obama is mixed-race. I have never heard of any racial slurs spoken by Trump against President Obama. Would you care to share a resource that Trump made such a statement? I'm not confirming nor refuting your claim, I just have never heard of the correlation between the birther issue and race before. I don't see how they are related. Do you believe that Trump would have done the same thing if Obama was 100% white? What about Jewish or Asian? Hispanic/Latino? Support your answer.
  8. by   elkpark
    Of course he's a racist -- that has been blatantly clear for decades. All of his adult life, in fact. You, and his right-wing henchman from the Heritage Foundation, Stephen Moore, can deny it, but that doesn't change anything. The evidence, the public record, is clear.

    A few sources documenting the evidence:

    Donald Trump has been obsessed with race for the entire time he has been a public figure. He had a history of making racist comments as a New York real-estate developer in the 1970s and '80s. More recently, his political rise was built on promulgating the lie that the nation's first black president was born in Kenya. He then launched his campaign with a speech describing Mexicans as rapists.

    The media often falls back on euphemisms when describing Trump's comments about race: racially loaded, racially charged, racially tinged, racially sensitive. And Trump himself has claimed that he is "the least racist person." But here's the truth: Donald Trump is a racist. He talks about and treats people differently based on their race. He has done so for years, and he is still doing so ...

    Opinion | Donald Trump’s Racism: The Definitive List - The New York Times

    For all the reactions to Donald Trump's "shithole" remarks about countries in Africa as well as Haiti, surprise cannot be one of them. From his early business interests, through his "birtherist" foray into national politics, to his divisive campaign rhetoric and now his utterances and policy as president: racism has been a steady undercurrent in the life and times of Trump ...
    Racism and Donald Trump: a common thread throughout his career and life | US news | The Guardian

    ... For the long followers of Trump's career, however, none of these incendiary remarks are especially surprising. Trump has a long record as a provocateur on matters of race and ethnicity ...
    Is Donald Trump a Racist? Here'''s What His Record Shows | Fortune

    ... His political career began in advocacy of birtherism, that modern recasting of the old American precept that black people are not fit to be citizens of the country they built. But long before birtherism, Trump had made his worldview clear. He fought to keep blacks out of his buildings, according to the U.S. government; called for the death penalty for the eventually exonerated Central Park Five; and railed against "lazy" black employees. "Black guys counting my money! I hate it," Trump was once quoted as saying. "The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day." After his cabal of conspiracy theorists forced Barack Obama to present his birth certificate, Trump demanded the president's college grades (offering $5 million in exchange for them), insisting that Obama was not intelligent enough to have gone to an Ivy League school, and that his acclaimed memoir, Dreams From My Father, had been ghostwritten by a white man, Bill Ayers. It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true-his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power. ...
    Donald Trump Is the First White President - The Atlantic


    Trump’s Full List of ‘Racist’ Comments About Immigrants, Muslims and Others
  9. by   herring_RN
    "He can't do his job because he's a Mexican."
    Hows is that not a racist or anti-Mexican statement?
  10. by   macawake
    Quote from Mr_Edwino
    Trump believed that Obama was not a legal citizen, but that is not a race issue. It is a coincidence that Obama is mixed-race.
    Why do you suppose Trump questioned the authenticity of President Obama's birth certificate? Out of all forty-four, this specific one caught his attention. Was it because of a long-standing, deep-seated distrust of people who went to Columbia and Harvard? People born in the state of Hawaii? Do you have any credible theories?

    Quote from Mr_Edwino
    I have never heard of any racial slurs spoken by Trump against President Obama. Would you care to share a resource that Trump made such a statement? I'm not confirming nor refuting your claim, .......
    a) I didn't make a claim for you to agree with or refute. I asked you to put forth a theory about why Trump did what he did.

    b) I never made the claim that Trump has spoken racial slurs towards President Obama, so why should I share a resource?

    Quote from Mr_Edwino
    ........ I just have never heard of the correlation between the birther issue and race before. I don't see how they are related.
    You've never heard of that correlation? I'm honestly having some trouble keeping a straight face over here.

    (<------ Yeah, I fought valiantly, but alas I lost control over my facial muscles )

    Quote from Mr_Edwino
    Do you believe that Trump would have done the same thing if Obama was 100% white? What about Jewish or Asian? Hispanic/Latino? Support your answer.
    I have no idea how Trump would hypothetically have acted if President Obama had been White, Jewish, Asian or Hispanic/Latino. I only know how he acted when the first President with one parent from an African country, was elected.

    I hereby support that I have no idea how Trump... yadda yadda...
  11. by   elkpark
    Quote from macawake
    [I]You've never heard of that correlation? I'm honestly having some trouble keeping a straight face over here.

    (<------ Yeah, I fought valiantly, but alas I lost control over my facial muscles )
    You and me both!
  12. by   heron
    Quote from elkpark
    You and me both!
    Me, too ... nothing like taking a torch to a straw man to liven up a discussion! I hate popcorn, but I think I have some Junior Mints around here somewhere ...

    Carry on!
  13. by   Daisy4RN
    As usual there are two sides to every coin, just because you don't agree with everything he says/does (and neither do I), that doesn't mean he is a racist. Do you really think that the same non-racist half of America that voted for Obama would have voted for Trump if he was racist, get real!

    No, Donald Trump Isn&#39;t a Racist | HuffPost
  14. by   Daisy4RN
    Quote from nursej22
    I will believe Trump is not racist when he stops referring to Mexicans as rapists, black athletes as SOBs, and non-Saudi Muslims as terrorists. And when he declares that White Nationalists are not very fine people.
    He was not being racist, he was referring to their actions, not the color of their skin.

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