The President Donald Trump Thread - page 354

I thought I would create a thread where we can talk about what he's currently up to. No particular topic but one that's ongoing with what he's doing and saying. I'll start with this speech on... Read More

  1. by   elkpark
    The New York Times is reporting that Mr. Immigration, Mr. "Build the Wall," employs undocumented immigrants at his NJ golf course (and, I'm sure he does at the other properties, too, if anyone actually investigated).

    Making President Trump’s Bed: A Housekeeper Without Papers - The New York Times
  2. by   Lil Nel
    I just read the NY Times article about illegal immigrants working at Trump properties, and with Trump.

    The piece simply reinforces what many of us already knew; the border crisis is nonsense.

    Trump is very comfortable with these immigrants. After all, he married one!

    Yep. Manufactured nonsense, designed to distract progressives and feed the racist base.

    Very simplistic strategy, that backfired on November 6.
  3. by   toomuchbaloney
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...llegal-things/

    "What was challenging for me coming from the disciplined, highly process-oriented Exxon Mobil corporation," Tillerson said, was "to go to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn't like to read, doesn't read briefing reports, doesn't like to get into the details of a lot of things, but rather just kind of says, 'This is what I believe.' "

    Tillerson also said that Trump isn't trying be impulsive, he's just acting on instinct.

    I laughed out loud at that one. Apparently, Trump is instinctively corrupt and dishonest.
  4. by   Tweety
    News story from an organization many accuse of being biased and fake news:

    Friday was a very, very bad day for Donald Trump - CNNPolitics

    There doesn't seem to be much on Fox News, what some consider fair and unbiased. Frankly, I don't care if he goes to jail, he's only telling the truth now, I mean "turning on Trump", because they got caught. I don't blame him, I'd be damned if I went to jail and didn't take people out with me.

    Jonathan Turley: Michael Cohen made a big mistake thinking he could avoid prison by turning on Trump | Fox News


    Interesting OPINION piece.

    The same intense partisanship within the Republican Party that has protected President Trump until this point could just as easily turn against him. That is the essence of intense partisanship. Decisions are not about loyalty to an individual or principle but about power. When a person stands in the way of power, then they become disposable.
    Really, I am so very tired of the partisan republicans not holding him accountable just because he does their bidding on other issues like the tax cuts.

    Will the Republican Party turn on Trump? (opinion) - CNN
    Last edit by Tweety on Dec 8
  5. by   SC_RNDude
    Quote from Tweety
    News story from an organization many accuse of being biased and fake news:

    Friday was a very, very bad day for Donald Trump - CNNPolitics

    There doesn't seem to be much on Fox News, what some consider fair and unbiased. Frankly, I don't care if he goes to jail, he's only telling the truth now, I mean "turning on Trump", because they got caught. I don't blame him, I'd be damned if I went to jail and didn't take people out with me.

    Jonathan Turley: Michael Cohen made a big mistake thinking he could avoid prison by turning on Trump | Fox News


    Interesting OPINION piece.



    Really, I am so very tired of the partisan republicans not holding him accountable just because he does their bidding on other issues like the tax cuts.

    Will the Republican Party turn on Trump? (opinion) - CNN
    I had just read the CNN article before I saw it here. It came up first in my Google news feed, which is funny because clearly it's an opinion article.

    Anyway, their headline has been run in many forms on many sites over the last two years. Yet, still no evidence of any crime by Trump or and colluding with the Russians to fix our election.

    Cohen would be the one who knows all Trumps dirty laundry. Yet, nothing new or substantial from him. And, they're going to try and stick it to him at sentencing. That tells me they didn't get from him what they wanted. And, who is going to cooperate with them now? if there is anyone else out there they want info from, they'll now really have to make a deal to get it.

    Rush Limbaugh has been saying for awhile the Mueller probe is nothing but a method to produce a extreme unflattering report on Trump. Yesterday, he summed it up by saying it's opposition research being funded by the US taxpayers. It seems this may be true.

    What exactly should Republicans hold Trump accountable for, and how?

    Right now, the best chance you have for Trump leaving office is the tariffs not working like he thinks they will, or he gets tired of being in this job and wants to resume his former life, and doesn't run for re-election.
  6. by   Tweety
    My Google "news" feed has opinion pieces as well.

    "Nothing substantial" except breaking the law at Trump's direction. No big deal because Trump says he's lying. Trump supporters will over look things like this to Make America Great Again. Especially when it one person's word over another and there really is no way to prove it.

    I'm not naive enough to think that people under a campaign might cover up dirt, break the law, and keep it from the candidate but it's a stretch.

    But her emails!!!! (whose investigation and hearing were funded by the taxpayers...as it should be)

    To me it like stealing a piece of candy verses stealing a cart load of groceries. Both are theft and against the law. But the stealing of the candy might be "nothing substantial" to some people. Meh

    At least Rush Limbaugh turned himself him during his addiction and illegal activity regarding prescription drug medications. I loved his joke when he was detained for having viagra without a prescription "Limbaugh joked about the incident on his radio show, claiming that he got the Viagra at the Clinton Library and was told they were blue M&M's. He also stated that "I had a great time in the Dominican Republic. Wish I could tell you about it." Certainly a man of integrity whose opinion you can respect.
    Last edit by Tweety on Dec 8
  7. by   toomuchbaloney
    Cohen did not sign an agreement of cooperation with those prosecutors, why exactly should they go easy on him? They have evidence that Cohen was running a criminal family business of his own, that he sold access to the POTUS for his personal gain, and that he broke federal campaign laws at the request and in coordination with Trump. He also admitted to lying about somethings to both Congress, and the fbi, about some things that others also spoke to Congress about.

    Even Fox News' Shep Smith covered this stuff. How can people not be aware of this?
  8. by   SC_RNDude
    Quote from Tweety
    My Google "news" feed has opinion pieces as well.

    "Nothing substantial" except breaking the law at Trump's direction. No big deal because Trump says he's lying. Trump supporters will over look things like this to Make America Great Again. Especially when it one person's word over another and there really is no way to prove it.

    I'm not naive enough to think that people under a campaign might cover up dirt, break the law, and keep it from the candidate but it's a stretch.

    But her emails!!!! (whose investigation and hearing were funded by the taxpayers...as it should be)

    To me it like stealing a piece of candy verses stealing a cart load of groceries. Both are theft and against the law. But the stealing of the candy might be "nothing substantial" to some people. Meh

    At least Rush Limbaugh turned himself him during his addiction and illegal activity regarding prescription drug medications. I loved his joke when he was detained for having viagra without a prescription "Limbaugh joked about the incident on his radio show, claiming that he got the Viagra at the Clinton Library and was told they were blue M&M's. He also stated that "I had a great time in the Dominican Republic. Wish I could tell you about it." Certainly a man of integrity whose opinion you can respect.
    Lol...Of course your Google news feed has opinion pieces. I bet you've never seen a pro-Trump opinion at the very top, if at all.

    The Clinton FBI email investigation isn't even comparable. Mueller and a team of partisan prosecutors, with seemingly unlimited resources, were charged with investigating Russian collusion and anything else they could find. Still, they haven't even found he has "stolen candy".

    As I recall, Limbaugh's big issue was opioid addiction. And he completed rehab for that. And he was caught with a bottle of Viagra in his doctor's name. And those incidents make him a bad guy? Wow.

    Just curious, what commentators of high integrity do you prefer?
  9. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Cohen did not sign an agreement of cooperation with those prosecutors, why exactly should they go easy on him? They have evidence that Cohen was running a criminal family business of his own, that he sold access to the POTUS for his personal gain, and that he broke federal campaign laws at the request and in coordination with Trump. He also admitted to lying about somethings to both Congress, and the fbi, about some things that others also spoke to Congress about.

    Even Fox News' Shep Smith covered this stuff. How can people not be aware of this?
    They are not aware because they don't want to be aware.

    The bell is tolling ever louder for Trump, and he knows it, hence the six or more Tweets disparaging Mueller yesterday.

    Cohen was very damaging to Trump, yesterday, in those court filings.

    Yes, Trump was soundly implicated in a campaign crime, paying Stormy Daniels for her silence. He directed Cohen to make an illegal payment.

    I said it months ago, Stormy Daniels may save our democracy.

    Hooray for Stormy Daniels!

    Then that shady and illegal stuff with potential Trump Tower, Moscow and a penthouse for Putin, etc.

    Rex Tillerson was right, yesterday, when he said that number of Americans who really comfortable being uninformed is alarming.

    I would go a step further, and suggest the number of Americans willing to look the other way on Dirty Donnie because their narrow self-interests are being fulfilled by him is disgraceful.
  10. by   Tweety
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    Lol...Of course your Google news feed has opinion pieces. I bet you've never seen a pro-Trump opinion at the very top, if at all.

    The Clinton FBI email investigation isn't even comparable. Mueller and a team of partisan prosecutors, with seemingly unlimited resources, were charged with investigating Russian collusion and anything else they could find. Still, they haven't even found he has "stolen candy".

    As I recall, Limbaugh's big issue was opioid addiction. And he completed rehab for that. And he was caught with a bottle of Viagra in his doctor's name. And those incidents make him a bad guy? Wow.

    Just curious, what commentators of high integrity do you prefer?
    The three stories right now on my news feed are. "Man arrested in NC teen's adduction and killing". "EU will negotiate if May loses Commons Brxit Vote". "John Kelly Out as White House Chief of Staff, Trump Says"....so no "pro Trump" stories today. Ya got me. Although on 2nd thought, it's on my "Bixby" which is Samsung's Siri kind of thing and I'm not sure it's Google news feed. But whatever, it's all news today and no opinion pieces, but I have seen opinions on there before.

    My point about Clinton is that if it's okay to investigate her using tax payers money, it's certainly worthy to investigate crimes surrounding the President. It's not like they've come up empty. I wanted to know what crimes Clinton could be convicted of (none so far) and I want to know what other crimes our leaders are doing. It is a waste of money.

    A tale of two investigations: Benghazi vs. Mueller - CNNPolitics

    My comment about Limbaugh was that at least he came clean about his crimes (yes his issue was opiod addiction but he didn't do it legally, as a 22 year person in recovery I'm in no position to call him a bad person), something Trump or the people surrounding Trump can't seem to do. The comment about his unprescribed viagra was a bit tongue in cheek. I did like how he handled the accusation of taking a prescription drug that wasn't prescribed to him.

    But as a commenter, he's feeds into conspiracy (such as the bombs mailed out to certain democrats were actually mailed out by democrats themselves) and like Trump doesn't know the difference between whether and climate change. Just to name a few things that make his unattractive to me as a commenter. Admitted I don't listen to him, nor have ever listened to a whole show of him and get him piecemeal on the internet.

    I don't have cable or listen to podcasts or radio commenters so I really can't answer your question. It would come no surprise that when I've listened to Dr. Rachel Maddow (piecemeal on the internet) , I've found her opinions well researched and making some sense so I suppose I would answer your question with her. Still, I don't listen to her. I don't like listening to people that are screwed too far to the left (like Michael Moore) or too far to the right, but people like Limbaugh and Coulter are loathsome to me sometimes and I avoid them.

    All Pants on Fire! statements involving Rush Limbaugh | PunditFact

    Rachel Maddow's file | PunditFact
    Last edit by Tweety on Dec 8
  11. by   MunoRN
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    I had just read the CNN article before I saw it here. It came up first in my Google news feed, which is funny because clearly it's an opinion article.

    Anyway, their headline has been run in many forms on many sites over the last two years. Yet, still no evidence of any crime by Trump or and colluding with the Russians to fix our election.

    Cohen would be the one who knows all Trumps dirty laundry. Yet, nothing new or substantial from him. And, they're going to try and stick it to him at sentencing. That tells me they didn't get from him what they wanted. And, who is going to cooperate with them now? if there is anyone else out there they want info from, they'll now really have to make a deal to get it.

    Rush Limbaugh has been saying for awhile the Mueller probe is nothing but a method to produce a extreme unflattering report on Trump. Yesterday, he summed it up by saying it's opposition research being funded by the US taxpayers. It seems this may be true.

    What exactly should Republicans hold Trump accountable for, and how?

    Right now, the best chance you have for Trump leaving office is the tariffs not working like he thinks they will, or he gets tired of being in this job and wants to resume his former life, and doesn't run for re-election.
    Trump was directly implicated in two felonies related to the Presidential election, so I'm not sure how you're getting that there is "still no evidence of any crime by Trump".

    There has already been evidence of members of the Trump campaign both attempting to coordinate and actually coordinating with the Russian government. Cohen coordinated Russian government assistance with the Trump campaign and possibly Trump himself, as did Manafort and Don Jr.

    I've said a few times that there is really no amount of evidence and no point at which Trump should be impeached, although I admit I really didn't think we'd be looking at this much evidence that he can't be allowed to continue as President.
  12. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from MunoRN
    Trump was directly implicated in two felonies related to the Presidential election, so I'm not sure how you're getting that there is "still no evidence of any crime by Trump".

    There has already been evidence of members of the Trump campaign both attempting to coordinate and actually coordinating with the Russian government. Cohen coordinated Russian government assistance with the Trump campaign and possibly Trump himself, as did Manafort and Don Jr.

    I've said a few times that there is really no amount of evidence and no point at which Trump should be impeached, although I admit I really didn't think we'd be looking at this much evidence that he can't be allowed to continue as President.
    For what it is worth, John Dean believes impeachment process may be on the horizon.

    He made his comments on CNN.

    From today's Washington Post:

    Congress Will Have To Start 'Impeachment Process' After Cohen Filings, Former Nixon Counsel Says
  13. by   Tweety
    This is an Analysis/Opinion piece, not a news story.

    President Donald Trump is dipping into his playbook of distraction and denial, but even his skills at weaving alternative narratives cannot disguise the growing threat he faces from special counsel Robert Mueller.
    Trump tries to change the story but Russia cloud darkens - CNNPolitics

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