National Park Service proposing rule changes -- Comment period ends Monday

  1. I can't believe I didn't hear about this before this evening --

    "A Trump administration proposal to limit protests at the White House and the National Mall, including by potentially charging fees for demonstrations, is meeting stiff resistance from civil rights groups who say the idea is unconstitutional ..."t

    'We won't go': Proposal to limit White House protests draws howls from civil rights groups

    NPS Wants To Charge For Protest Permits Around National Mall. There Are A Few Days Left To Weigh In: DCist

    Just when you think things can't get any worse ...

    The NPS is requesting public comment on this, and the comment period ends Monday(10/15/18). Here is the government website for submitting a comment:

    Regulations.gov

    Click on the black "Comment Now" button on the right side of the page, which opens up the page in which you can type your comment. You can also click on the name of the rule to read the proposed rules. The instructions for submitting a comment specify that you must include in your comment the name of the government agency (National Park Service) and the RIN (Regulation Identifier Number) which, in this case, is 1024-AE45.
    Last edit by elkpark on Oct 12
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  3. by   toomuchbaloney
    Fascism
  4. by   elkpark
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Fascism
    Precisely.
  5. by   SC_RNDude
    You mean the NPS wants to charge for permits so that groups help with the costs of picking ups their garbage and repairing the grounds they used.

    Practically every city in the country charges for these same kind of permits.

    Fascism....lol!

    I'm glad I peaked in today. Thanks for the chuckle.

    As you were.
  6. by   Lil Nel
    I made a comment on the web site, baloney.

    Sincerely hope the proposed changes are stopped.

    But if they go through, I will try and look on the bright side.

    Hopefully, the wacko Right To Lifers will be stopped from conducting their annual protest by the WH, and White Nationalists, too.
  7. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    You mean the NPS wants to charge for permits so that groups help with the costs of picking ups their garbage and repairing the grounds they used.

    Practically every city in the country charges for these same kind of permits.

    Fascism....lol!

    I'm glad I peaked in today. Thanks for the chuckle.

    As you were.
    Yes, glad I peeked at this site today.

    Look who the cat dragged in from the field!

    Thanks for the chuckle!!!!
  8. by   SC_RNDude
    Quote from Lil Nel
    Yes, glad I peeked at this site today.

    Look who the cat dragged in from the field!

    Thanks for the chuckle!!!!
    Be careful. Baloney recently admonished another poster for using a similar derogatory idiom, even after the poster explained there was no ill will meant by it.
  9. by   Ted
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    You mean the NPS wants to charge for permits so that groups help with the costs of picking ups their garbage and repairing the grounds they used.

    Practically every city in the country charges for these same kind of permits.

    Fascism....lol!

    I'm glad I peaked in today. Thanks for the chuckle.

    As you were.
    Interesting. . .

    Who is paying for the protection provided President Trump at all of his ("feel good") rallies?!? We are as tax payers, even those of us who fervently and morally oppose this dangerous fool.

    Whether one believes it to be true or doesn't believe, fascist tendencies do exist within the Trump Administration, and are overtly or passively supported by the freakish and equally dangerous Republican Party as it exists in the 21st Century.

    Protest rallies should remain free at the White House and National Mall. . . even if clean up is paid for by all citizens of the United States through our taxes. (What protesters of any political thought can do is help clean up after themselves.)
    Last edit by Ted on Oct 14
  10. by   Lil Nel
    I always clean up after myself, Ted.

    It's kind of like hiking; carry in, and carry out.
  11. by   macawake
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    Practically every city in the country charges for these same kind of permits.
    If for example Dubuque or Sarasota were to do that it wouldn't have even close to the same impact as if Washington D.C. did it. Please don't pretend like they're equivalent.

    The nexus of your nation's executive, legislative and judicial power is in D.C..

    Quote from SC_RNDude
    Fascism....lol!

    I'm glad I peaked in today. Thanks for the chuckle.

    As you were.
    You are being condescending.

    Instead, perhaps you could explain why creating obstacles, where none previously existed, making it more difficult for citizens to make their voice heard, isn't a step towards silencing dissent?

    Leaders in free societies make efforts to facilitate free speech.

    Oppressive regimes make free speech harder.

    Call it fascism or call it whatever you want. This is a step in the wrong direction.




    https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/RWAS/1.php

    My score is 5.68%

    What's yours?

    Quote from Ted
    Whether one believes it to be true or doesn't believe, fascist tendencies do exist within the Trump Administration, and are overtly or passively supported by the freakish and equally dangerous Republican Party as it exists in the 21st Century.
    As always, love your post.

    I think it's clear as day that there are elements in this current administration that are deliberately steering you away from "the land of the free". The U.S. used to be a beacon of hope. Now, it's a country that detains young children in huge sterile looking tent camps with no guarantees that these children will ever be reunited with their parents.

    The world is watching.
    Last edit by macawake on Oct 14
  12. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from macawake
    If for example Dubuque or Sarasota were to do that it wouldn't have even close to the same impact as if Washington D.C. did it. Please don't pretend like they're equivalent.

    The nexus of your nation's executive, legislative and judicial power is in D.C..



    You are being condescending.

    Instead, perhaps you could explain why creating obstacles, where none previously existed, making it more difficult for citizens to make their voice heard, isn't a step towards silencing dissent?

    Leaders in free societies make efforts to facilitate free speech.

    Oppressive regimes make free speech harder.

    Call it fascism or call it whatever you want. This is a step in the wrong direction.

    https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/RWAS/1.php

    My score is 5.68%

    What's yours?



    As always, love your post.

    I think it's clear as day that there are elements in this current administration that are deliberately stearing you away from "the land of the free". The U.S. used to be a beacon of hope. Now, it's a country that detains young children in huge sterile looking tent camps with no guarantees that these children will ever be reunited with their parents.

    The world is watching.
    More than just the world watching, Americans are watching their country be torn apart.

    As Joe Biden said on Friday, while campaigning for Amy McGrath:
    This isn't about Donald Trump. We know who he is.
    This is about us, and who we are.
  13. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    Be careful. Baloney recently admonished another poster for using a similar derogatory idiom, even after the poster explained there was no ill will meant by it.
    I was betting that you would point out the derogatory remark, so I wouldn't have to. I was right.
    Yep, cats drag in rodents, birds, unidentified carcasses, and prey.
    They are expressions best kept to close personal communication.
  14. by   nursej22
    I try to avoid idioms to characterize others on the internet, and when dealing with persons not born in the US. Without accompanying nonverbal cues to lend nuance, it is easy for a misinterpretation. I may say to dh "look what the cat dragged in" when he comes in from working in the yard covered in mud, but he would see my smile and head shake.

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