Constitutional Legitimacy for War

  1. There seems to be no clear requirement for the United States President or Congress to authorize acts of war.
    Some of the same people who accused President Obama of unconstitutional war-making are saying yesterday's bombing of Syria was without Constitutional authorization.
    The same is said of the Korean War, the Viet Nam war, and more.
    Some only complain when the president is not of their party. Others are more consistant.
    I'm interested in reading fellow nurse's thoughts on this.
    Matters of Debate
    The Textual Limit on the President's War Powers by Michael D. Ramsey
    Article I - The United States Constitution
    In 'Clear Violation of Domestic and International Law,' Trump Bombs Syria
    "Strikes against the Syrian regime - without congressional input or authorization - shows a contempt for the U.S Constitution and is without legal justification."
    In 'Clear Violation of Domestic and International Law,' Trump Bombs Syria
    The Perils of Obama's Latest Undeclared War
    As America's intervention against ISIS in Iraq and Syria intensifies, its present course lacks popular support or constitutional legitimacy.
    President Obama's Unconstitutional War Against ISIS in Iraq and Syria - The Atlantic
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  3. by   MunoRN
    Trump's view on the subject circa 2013:
    The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!
    4:02 PM - 30 Aug 2013
  4. by   azhiker96
    It seems short term engagements are pretty much exempted from prior Congressional approval. We've seen plenty of them over the past few decades.

    I have not seen any evidence presented that Assad perpetrated the recent apparent chlorine attack. Chlorine gas is easy to buy or produce. I can make it at home with common household goods. The rebel forces have home made gas canister mortars capable of delivering the gas. They also have killed plenty of civilians during their uprising.

    Motivation is also worth examining. They Syrian govt forces, with Russian backing, have been steadily overcoming the rebels. There is no need for govt forces to use chemical weapons since they have been winning with conventional weapons.

    The rebels have been reduced to only holding one major town. They are desperate and need outside help. This attack has succeeded in mobilizing outside nations to attack Assad. Whether the rebels committed the gas attack or not, they have benefited from it.
  5. by   herring_RN
    I dislike my country bombing a country that hasn't attacked the USA. We really don't know just what happened.

    I've care for more than one patient who accidentally made chlorine gas by using bleach and ammonia window cleaners.
    One had to be intubated. Her kids in the next room were sick too.
    Symptoms were chest pain, shortness of breath, and severe eye irritation.
  6. by   nursej22
    I disagree with any President waging war without approval from Congress. I see this latest action as just another 'wag the dog" that previous presidents from both parties have engaged in.

    I doubt that Congress has enough members to push back on this. And for now it looks like this was a one time attack. The mission accomplished statement really galls me, when Friday night DJT was declaring that this would be a sustained action.
  7. by   azhiker96
    My high school AM gym class got gassed with Chlorine one time. When we entered the basement boys showers there was a very strong odor of chlorine. Our eyes were watering and it kinda stung to inhale it. We just thought the janitor had finally gotten serious about the years of mold buildup in that dark, dank place. Then someone came down yelling for us to get out, there was a chlorine leak from the pool chlorination system. Mild respiratory symptoms for the day but on a side note we didn't see any roaches down there for the rest of the semester.
  8. by   NurseBlaq
    I know this is an old thread but with the aggression Trump has for other nations I fear we may soon be at war over something stupid. Let's also not fail to mention it's not with nations that have dictators, he's in awe of them. Shame.
  9. by   toomuchbaloney
    Let's not forget that Republican congressional leadership is opposed to a debate on our warlike activities and attitudes. Congress seems content to completely ignore their responsibility knowing that their voting base won't care or has no clue.