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Trump is Racist? I Don't Think So

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The birther movement was not spearheaded by Trump, it was started by Andy Martin, a Democrat, and he accused Obama early on in his career during the Senatorial election. There was no racial connotation at all.

"Conspiracy theories about Obama's religion appeared at least as early as his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign in a press release by Illinois political candidate Andy Martin,[29] and, according to a Los Angeles Times editorial, as Internet rumors.[30] These rumors about his religion expanded into his values, cultural, and national loyalty, and, by 2008, into conspiracy theories about his citizenship."

Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories - Wikipedia

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And yet, you included DJT's proclamation about National Hispanic Heritage Month in your original post as proof that he is not racist. Whatever :facepalm:

Does anybody have any Sour Patch Kids to share?

My words were "pro-diversity". That encompasses nationality and race. So if he is anti-Mexican, than explain that proposition. Facepalm right back

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So what does race have to do with the birther movement?

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    In order to make sure this comment is relevant to this topic, and assure that this post is not SPAM, your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting. Sorry for any inconvenience."

So my posts get filtered now. I see how it is around here. I get this message every time I post. I have only included text, no media. How can I post off-topic when I created the topic? That is so weak.

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Off topic post: Kind of Blue is an iconic album. John Coltrane's solo on that particular performance is outstanding, I think even his bandmates were surprised at his level of phrasing and musical maturation considering his young age, you can see it on their faces. I was a professional jazz musician for 15 years before I went into nursing. Go ahead, say what ever you want, I'm glad herring posted this. It took me back for a minute...

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  • "Mr_Edwino
     
    In order to make sure this comment is relevant to this topic, and assure that this post is not SPAM, your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting. Sorry for any inconvenience."

So my posts get filtered now. I see how it is around here. I get this message every time I post. How can I post off-topic when I created the topic? That is weak.

This often shows up when I try to link videos. Just give it some time.

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The Spanish word "raza" cannot be equated with the recent English usage of "race" to only mean major continental races. It is more like the earlier English usage of "race" that could also mean a national ancestry.

In Mexico the official ideology for a century has been that various origins intermarried to create a unique new Mexican people or raza.

Is Mexican a race or ethnicity? - Quora

Language continues to evolve. The word "guy" is an eponym. It comes from the name of Guy Fawkes, who was part of a failed attempt to blow up Parliament in 1605. People used to burn his effigy, a "Guy Fawkes" or a "guy," and from there it came to refer to a frightful figure.

In the U.S., it has come to refer to men in general.

History of Racism Against Mexican-Americans Clouds Texas Immigration Law

History of Racism Against Mexican-Americans Clouds Texas Immigration Law

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"Mr_Edwino

In order to make sure this comment is relevant to this topic, and assure that this post is not SPAM, your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting. Sorry for any inconvenience."

So my posts get filtered now. I see how it is around here. I get this message every time I post. How can I post off-topic when I created the topic? That is weak

This often shows up when I try to link videos. Just give it some time.
It has happened to me many many times. Yesterday In posted a song, "Avalon My Home Town" It still wasn't there this morning so I added it to a post today:

https://allnurses-breakroom.com/diary/monday-7-2-1167153.html#post9881305

PS: I invite you to join the "Daily Diary" threads. We post on many topics or no topic at all

PPS: My Grandma was a chatterbox (always talking)

Once a guy said to my uncle, "My mother is so well educated that she can speak on any topic."

He said, "You think that's something? My mother can speak without a topic."

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"Mexican" by no definition or affiliation is a term used to identify race it is to identify nationality. There are white, black, mestizo, and asian Mexicans. If you disagree, tell Canelo Alvarez to his face that he is not white; you will instantly regret that comment I'm sure.

"According to the 2010 US Census, 52.8% of Mexican Americans identified as being White.[38]" In the country of Mexico, the population from European decent is as high as 62.6% (Nuevo Leon) in some states.

Mexicans of European descent - Wikipedia

How could Trump be accused of being racist against Mexico/ Mexican-Americans (The judge in the previous post by herring was Mexcan-American) if 52.8 and 62.6% respectively of those populations identify as white? If you accused him of a nationalistic bias, I would agree. Racist absolutely not.

You might want to read what you quoted for comprehension and then reconsider your first paragraph.

For your convenience; Quote*from nursej22

"I will believe Trump is not racist when he stops referring to Mexicans as rapists, black athletes as SOBs, and non-Saudi Muslims as terrorists. And when he declares that White Nationalists are not very fine people."

I'm wondering who regrets what.

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You might want to read what you quoted for comprehension and then reconsider your first paragraph.

For your convenience; Quote*from nursej22

"I will believe Trump is not racist when he stops referring to Mexicans as rapists, black athletes as SOBs, and non-Saudi Muslims as terrorists. And when he declares that White Nationalists are not very fine people."

I'm wondering who regrets what.

What about my quote? You guys have changed the definition of racism to make it fit your viewpoint when you talk about Trump. Saudi-Muslims are not a race of people, Mexicans are not a race, and calling someone an SOB, (son of a *****? correct?), is 100% NOT a racist statement unless he said "black athletes are SOBs". The actual quote was:

"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say 'get that son of a b**** off the field right now - he's fired,'"

How is that racist? Call Trump a nationalist, fine, racist? Nope

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Well, my responses are getting filtered out, I'm missing three response posts, so I don't know what else to say. They were all on topic responses, except one comment about the Miles Davis video posted, which was music related. AllNurses has made their agenda crystal clear to me. Any opposing opinions are not welcome by the community nor the mods, no matter how well backed they are. I ask tough questions, but I never claim to have all of the answers; I just present information and straight forward inquiry because that how real knowledge and objective opinions are formed. Go ahead and agree with each other about everything, apparently you don't like your opinions to be challenged here. Like I said, that is incredibly weak and pathetically sad.

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Language continues to evolve. The word "guy" is an eponym. It comes from the name of Guy Fawkes, who was part of a failed attempt to blow up Parliament in 1605. People used to burn his effigy, a "Guy Fawkes" or a "guy," and from there it came to refer to a frightful figure.

In the U.S., it has come to refer to men in general.

This was the first quora response in the link you posted:

"It is generally considered an ethnicity as Mexicans are considered Caucasians. One caveat however, there is a lot of debate on that issue. Fortunately U.S. case law has defined Mexicans as Caucasian."

Did you mean to help prove my point? Oops!

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