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Trump is Racist? I Don't Think So

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You are reading page 12 of Trump is Racist? I Don't Think So. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

Immigration is the topic that best highlights Trump's sophomoric thinking and feelings about people who look different from him.

Although his racism is evident across a wide range of domains, not just immigration.

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Although his racism is evident across a wide range of domains, not just immigration.

This truth would explain why 80% of black Americans, 60% of Hispanic Americans, and 49% of all Americans see Trump as a racist.

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There are wide spread homelessness issues across the country, and there is a nation-wide opioid crisis, and both can be attributed to multiple issues: high cost of housing, chronic pain, deceptive marketing on the part of pharmaceuticals, failure to recover from the recession, flat wages, run-away debt, just to start with. I fail to see what this has to do with the demonization of brown people and immigrants.

People from Latin America have come to the US for years to work in agriculture, and then traditionally return to their homes and families. Since the institution of ICE and tighter border security, crossing has become more dangerous, and workers stayed in the US. Yes, import of drugs is a problem, but families fleeing violence are not bringing drugs.

Oh good grief, I was not even talking about immigration!!

Maybe an example will help illustrate my point:

I recently saw a TV episode of Anthony Bourdain's show. For those who don't know he was a chef who traveled the world getting to know the different people of the world, how they cook, their culture, getting to know them personally and their community etc.

This particular episode showcased a community of coal workers in Virginia. He went to the community, got to know the people personally, their culture, their cooking, was invited into their home for meals etc.

During the show he said that prior to meeting the people personally him and his friends would talk about how we should not use coal and how those people affected by the closure of mines could just go and get another job. He said after meeting and getting to know the people/community he understood better and was able to see a different perspective.

This was my point, you cannot truly understand any certain geographic area unless you experience it first hand, and then its still not the same because even though you may have a better understanding after interacting with people, you do not live there and experience it everyday in the same way they do.

PS this community was multiracial so please do not make this about the race of the community.

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I've been spending some time over on #WalkAway and reading the stories from people who come from all walks of life about why they became disillusioned with the Democrat Party.

I don't feel right copying and posting some of the more poignent stories over here. Suffice it to say, it is heartbreaking how some were treated when they decided to change their minds about issues.

The number of folks joining is exploding in the past few days. Every race is represented, gay, lesbian, transgender, etc. As I said before, it is refreshing. To me.

I'm not going to wade any further into this thread. Same old, same old folks and I've been gone awhile. If people don't want to listen to others who have met with extreme prejudice simply due to a difference of opinion, then we may be doomed.

But I don't think so . . . I'll keep reading over on the other site.

Take care. "Be civil".:inlove:

WalkAway is a Russian disinformation front and many of those profiles are fake, as well as the pictures taken from stock photos.

Pro-Trump & Russian-Linked Twitter Accounts Are Posing As Ex-Democrats In New Astroturfed Movement

*Most of the tweets were strikingly similar, and the vast majority pushed a very familiar narrative. Using the hashtag #WalkAway and claiming to be former Democrats, social media users shared their stories of leaving the Democratic party after being turned off by the "hate" and "division" of "the left." Many of them cited the incidents involving Sanders and Waters as examples of the "intolerance" and "bullying" that supposedly drove them to support Trump after years-in some cases, decades-of voting for Democrats.

*If this sounds familiar, there's good reason for that-it very much echoes the "civility" debate playing out right now among the Very Important Thinkers and on the opinion pages of the Very Serious Newspapers. The basic narrative is one that we've heard countless times before, but this time it's being exploited by a new cast of characters, and, at least in some cases, with the intent to deceive.

The primary functional goal of an astroturfed campaign like this one is to manipulate public opinion by gaming online algorithms to amplify certain content and push it onto people's social media feeds and to the top of search engine results.

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I've been spending some time over on #WalkAway and reading the stories from people who come from all walks of life about why they became disillusioned with the Democrat Party.

Is there any way to verify that these stories are actually written by people who used to be Democrats? Are they named and identifiable so that I can look for proof that demonstrate that they used to advocate typical Democrat or liberal viewpoints? What I'm asking is how can I ascertain that these accounts aren't just another tentacle of the ongoing social media influence campaign?

The number of folks joining is exploding in the past few days.

Have you asked yourself why the number of folks joining has been "exploding" now? If one was a bit cynical one might suspect that this has something to do with the upcoming mid-term elections.....................

I'm not going to wade any further into this thread. Same old' date=' same old folks and I've been gone awhile. If people don't want to listen to others who have met with extreme prejudice simply due to a difference of opinion, then we may be doomed.[/quote']

In your opinion, are you open to listening to people who have opinions which differs from yours? By people I mean us same old, same old folks.

I'll keep reading over on the other site.

#ConfirmationBiasIsBliss

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Bots and Russians and fake accounts --- OH MY!

Straka's #WalkAway enjoyed a boost from fake accounts, identical astroturfed tweets, and a legion of bots. It's not yet clear how big a role such accounts played in pushing the hashtag up Twitter's trending chart...

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Pro-Trump & Russian-Linked Twitter Accounts Are Posing As Ex-Democrats In New Astroturfed Movement

Pro-Trump & Russian-Linked Twitter Accounts Are Posing As Ex-Democrats In New Astroturfed Movement

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The #WalkAway meme is what happens when everything is viral and nothing matters - The Washington Post

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What would a person have to do or say for you to think he or she is a racist?

Likewise, what would a person have to do or say for you to agree to disagree.

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Likewise, what would a person have to do or say for you to agree to disagree.

It is quite obvious that we disagree. I will happily say that I agree that we disagree ;)

Despite that, I'm still extremely curious to know what kind of words and/or actions are required before you agree that a person saying and/or doing them, is a racist? Why is this so difficult?

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It is quite obvious that we disagree. I will happily say that I agree that we disagree ;)

Despite that, I'm still extremely curious to know what kind of words and/or actions are required before you agree that a person saying and/or doing them, is a racist? Why is this so difficult?

At the risk of starting all this back and forth AGAIN, see post 39, and as I stated before I believe that calling someone racist is a serious charge and I don't know whether the man is racist or not because I don't know him, the same way I don't know that about anyone else that I don't know. Why is this so difficult?

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When you call someone a racist you are the one with the burden of proof to show he is a racist. All I ever see as "proof" are the attempts of a liberal left leaning media to twist everything around as to call him out as a racist. Does he say stupid things, yes, but that doesn't make him a racist. People , whoever you are, have no right to call someone a racist unless you are sure. And, also just look at everything else they call him, everything they can possibly think of because that is all the dems and their media have, no policy, nothing for the American people except to hate and resist Trump, sad and pathetic.

Spoken like someone who never experienced/experiences racism. You just basically downgraded people's experiences while upholding Trump who anyone with eyes and common sense can see is a bigot, racist, etc etc. You have no right to claim someone else perception of racism is as it isn't your experience. What do you deem as racist? Serious question.

At the risk of starting all this back and forth AGAIN, see post 39, and as I stated before I believe that calling someone racist is a serious charge and I don't know whether the man is racist or not because I don't know him, the same way I don't know that about anyone else that I don't know. Why is this so difficult?

It doesn't answer or specify "what kind of words and/or actions are required before you agree that a person saying and/or doing the, is a racist?"

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There are in fact Mexicans/Hispanics that do cross the border who are rapists, there are in fact Islamic terrorists who cross the border, saying this is a fact is NOT racist! And, nobody is stopping the football players from protesting, Hmmmm, wonder why we don't see them, could it be they don't want to waste their own time protesting!!

You're correct, saying that a relatively small portion of those crossing the border are rapists and "bringing crime" or that a relatively small portion of Muslims are terrorists would not be racist or biased, but that's not what Trump said, he made overly broad defamatory generalizations about groups of people. It seems you're taking what Trump said and re-interpreting it to not sound racist.

He broadly described immigrants from Mexico and central America as "bringing crime" and being rapists with the exception of only "some" who didn't meet that description.

Trump made a number of statements that at least initially appeared to generalize Muslims as being terrorists, given the opportunity to clarify that he didn't mean Muslims in general are terrorists he instead doubled down on his claim.

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