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It seems now that there is a daily killing or shooting in our schools lately. Yesterday it was at a University in South Carolina on the last day of school. It was by a student who killed two others. Oh if only these copycat shootings would stop. 

I realize that the school officials have a lot of problems with it, and do wish it would stop as I do. 

PRAYER needs to be restored in our schools, and we also need to pray for all who are affected by it. God is a good God and He does answer prayers.

I also realize that the sensationalism the press creates in their reports is what attracts audiences, and is in part responsible. It is also why we need to pray for America also.

Will you stand with me and commit to doing so for the sake of everyone please?

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I pray a lot without formal prayers. I believe God knows my wishes for people to be kind to each other.

I think formal prayers in school are not appropriate for public schools because people of different religions and/or denominations don't believe in using the same words. 

Also some people are not religious. I recently cared for my step-Mom, who recently died. She avoided formal religion. She also was generous and kind. She helped a young woman, the niece of her departed friend, by paying a LOT for drug rehab. That was several years ago and that woman is now living a good life without drugs. 

When she died my first thought was "She is in heaven now." My next thought was "she must be pleasantly surprised"

I am impressed with the students who lived through seeing their classmates and teachers shot at school acting to prevent mor killings.

Some are working to improve gun laws. Some are doing what they can to support and befriend students who are teased, and those who seem to have trouble fitting in. Possibly more kindness by students and others at the school to those who annoy us or worse can help prevent some violence. Noticing a depressed student and telling a trusted counselor may also help.  

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On 5/2/2019 at 5:32 PM, FranEMTnurse said:

It seems now that there is a daily killing or shooting in our schools lately. Yesterday it was at a University in South Carolina on the last day of school. It was by a student who killed two others. Oh if only these copycat shootings would stop. 

I realize that the school officials have a lot of problems with it, and do wish it would stop as I do. 

PRAYER needs to be restored in our schools, and we also need to pray for all who are affected by it. God is a good God and He does answer prayers.

I also realize that the sensationalism the press creates in their reports is what attracts audiences, and is in part responsible. It is also why we need to pray for America also.

Will you stand with me and commit to doing so for the sake of everyone please?

Because prayer is such a well known deflector of bullets. 

 

Would it not be better to get decent mental health care and perhaps some gun control?

 

Please note I am not saying stop praying or get rid of guns, but would prefer if something was actually done.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dunblane-school-shootings-ban/

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On 5/2/2019 at 4:45 PM, herring_RN said:

I pray a lot without formal prayers. I believe God knows my wishes for people to be kind to each other.

I think formal prayers in school are not appropriate for public schools because people of different religions and/or denominations don't believe in using the same words. 

Also some people are not religious. I recently cared for my step-Mom, who recently died. She avoided formal religion. She also was generous and kind. She helped a young woman, the niece of her departed friend, by paying a LOT for drug rehab. That was several years ago and that woman is now living a good life without drugs. 

When she died my first thought was "She is in heaven now." My next thought was "she must be pleasantly surprised"

I am impressed with the students who lived through seeing their classmates and teachers shot at school acting to prevent mor killings.

Some are working to improve gun laws. Some are doing what they can to support and befriend students who are teased, and those who seem to have trouble fitting in. Possibly more kindness by students and others at the school to those who annoy us or worse can help prevent some violence. Noticing a depressed student and telling a trusted counselor may also help.  

I differ with you, because when we did have prayer in our schools, the classroom teachers excused the students of different faiths or were agnostic, and told them to go to the library for about 5 minutes.

 

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When I was in second grade my teacher slapped my head while praying for the devil to "Be Gone" because I bit my fingernails. This was during "Prayer Time". This was 1949. That teacher was creepy to me.

I am Christian, but don't remember anything about the devil causing nail biting.

In first grade the teacher often told us to pray to God as we wanted to. Sometimes she prayed, "Dear God help these children be kind, and help other be kind to them and their teacher." I loved that teacher. 

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On 5/7/2019 at 6:20 PM, FranEMTnurse said:

I differ with you, because when we did have prayer in our schools, the classroom teachers excused the students of different faiths or were agnostic, and told them to go to the library for about 5 minutes.

 

What a wonderful way to make kids feel excluded and different from their peers during formative years....

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On 5/9/2019 at 2:51 PM, kidzcare said:

What a wonderful way to make kids feel excluded and different from their peers during formative years....

Exactly.  I am a firm believer in the separation of church and state.  I don't believe prayer belongs in public schools.  Faith is a very personal matter and no one should be forced to pray, or be excluded from a classroom because they do not pray.  The United States does not have a state religion, and not everyone believes in God or is a Christian.  

As far as school shootings are concerned, thoughts and prayers have done nothing to stop them.  Thoughts and prayers have been offered over and over, and nothing changes. Things don't change just because you want them to.  Action is required.  If you believe in God, do you not think his or her inaction is sending a clear message that humans need to make some changes to stop this epidemic?  We caused it, and we need to fix it.  More attention to mental health issues and less glorification of guns.  Stricter gun laws.  More acceptance of others who are different from us.  

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I am a borderline Christian.  I try to and want to believe.  I even go to church almost every Sunday.  

I believe God knows me, knows my heart/soul, knows my struggles problems.  I believe God can bless me, calm me, give me grace, so I can work through my problems myself.  Firm believer in God helps those who help themselves.   I don't feel anything when someone else, be it teacher, pastor, group leader, prays for me or gives a generic prayer to a group.

 

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On 5/7/2019 at 7:20 PM, FranEMTnurse said:

I differ with you, because when we did have prayer in our schools, the classroom teachers excused the students of different faiths or were agnostic, and told them to go to the library for about 5 minutes.

 

I am sorry that you don't believe in the separation of church and state, the way our founders did.

I am sorry that you don't understand that ostracism, sending non-praying students, is in part, what leads to school shootings.

I would never, never, support religion in public school classrooms.

It doesn't belong there.

It belongs in the home.

Sensible gun laws are needed.

Unfettered access to guns is the problem.

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On 5/2/2019 at 12:32 PM, FranEMTnurse said:

It seems now that there is a daily killing or shooting in our schools lately. Yesterday it was at a University in South Carolina on the last day of school. It was by a student who killed two others. Oh if only these copycat shootings would stop. 

I realize that the school officials have a lot of problems with it, and do wish it would stop as I do. 

PRAYER needs to be restored in our schools, and we also need to pray for all who are affected by it. God is a good God and He does answer prayers.

I also realize that the sensationalism the press creates in their reports is what attracts audiences, and is in part responsible. It is also why we need to pray for America also.

Will you stand with me and commit to doing so for the sake of everyone please?

And what exactly have YOU done to stop the gun violence, you profess to deplore?

Have you supported candidates advocating for sensible gun laws?

Have you supported initiatives that provide more money for counselors and therapists in schools?

Or, are you just wishing, and hoping and praying?

Get involved with Moms Demand Action On Gun Violence.

You can easily participate from home.

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The school system has 8 counselors, and the entire faculty does put the interests of the kids first. I love it!

 

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