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4 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

 

He is now claiming he made Juneteenth famous.

I learned about Junteenth in 1995, from my ex-husband.

That’s not possible. Trump said that “nobody ever heard of it.”

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Why hasn't congress to done their job and taken up the DACA issue? They DID. It never got a vote because the Senate Majority Leader refused to do his job.

Twenty years ago Senator Durbin introduced the DREAM Act. For two decades the bill has passed the House and each time Senator McConnell has refused to bring it up for a vote.

When a majority of the Representatives voted "yes", the bill passed in the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill was then certified by the Clerk of the House and delivered to the U.S. Senate. 

When the bill (DACA,  Promise Act, or DREAM Act) reached the U.S. Senate, it should have gone through many of the same steps it went through in the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill should have been discussed in a Senate committee and then reported to the Senate floor to be voted on.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/18/880282891/democrats-praise-supreme-court-decision-to-uphold-daca

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/mitch-mcconnell-dream-act-senate-1355864

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23 hours ago, herring_RN said:

Supreme Court Rules Against Trump’s Move to End DACAS

In a 5-4 ruling that affects more than 600,000 immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, high court says administration didn’t provide sufficient reasons for canceling DACA.

The court, in a 5-4 opinion by Chief Justice John Roberts, said the administration acted arbitrarily when it moved to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, failing to offer adequate reasons for doing so....

https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-blocks-trump-cancellation-of-daca-immigration-program-11592489280

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12 hours ago Lucylu71 said

Of course, the easy solution to all this would be for congress to do their job and take up this issue.

 

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4 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

How is it, that in 2020, Trump continues to find new ways in which to behave like a moron?

He is now claiming he made Juneteenth famous.

I learned about Junteenth in 1995, from my ex-husband.

He studied the Media and Race in graduate school. He shared bell hooks, with me, and Junteenth.

Gosh. 1995. Wasn't Clinton president back then?

Trump. Nothing more than a flailing moron.

I learned about Junteenth with my sisters and cousins from our Grandma, who was born in Texas. My Mom was born in Texas too.

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26 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

I learned about Junteenth with my sisters and cousins from our Grandma, who was born in Texas. My Mom was born in Texas too.

I also learned about it from a friend with Texas connections in just the past couple of years!

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19 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I also learned about it from a friend with Texas connections in just the past couple of years!

My ex-husband spent time in TX as well, working as the Pop Music Critic for the Dallas newspaper.

I can't be sure if he learned of it there, or in graduate school, in Iowa where we met.

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14 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Of course, the easy solution to all this would be for congress to do their job and take up this issue.

Congress has brought forward bills to replace DACA for a while now, the most recent being the DREAM Act of 2019, which McConnell has failed to take up.  Prior to that the House offered McConnell 4 different versions of bills to replace DACA, which he then committed to bringing one of them to the Senate floor in exchange for democrat support of his spending bill, then never brought any of the House bills to the senate floor.  

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3 hours ago, herring_RN said:

Why hasn't congress to done their job and taken up the DACA issue? They DID. It never got a vote because the Senate Majority Leader refused to do his job.

Twenty years ago Senator Durbin introduced the DREAM Act. For two decades the bill has passed the House and each time Senator McConnell has refused to bring it up for a vote.

When a majority of the Representatives voted "yes", the bill passed in the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill was then certified by the Clerk of the House and delivered to the U.S. Senate. 

When the bill (DACA,  Promise Act, or DREAM Act) reached the U.S. Senate, it should have gone through many of the same steps it went through in the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill should have been discussed in a Senate committee and then reported to the Senate floor to be voted on.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/18/880282891/democrats-praise-supreme-court-decision-to-uphold-daca

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/mitch-mcconnell-dream-act-senate-1355864

 

Be that as it may, and you can blame McDonnell if you want although imo lots of blame to go around on both sides, but it is Congress' job to get this done.

As it is now,  it is a questionable if DACA is legal because of how it was implemented,  and I doubt this is the last fight on it.

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2 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Be that as it may, and you can blame McDonnell if you want although imo lots of blame to go around on both sides, but it is Congress' job to get this done.

As it is now,  it is a questionable if DACA is legal because of how it was implemented,  and I doubt this is the last fight on it.

😂

DACA is a problem because of the GOP....keep squirming to try to find a comfortable place for that truth.  Of course it's not the last fight...Trump's xenophobic need to campaign on these divisive issues of race and discrimination insure that we won't be done with it until he's gone.  

 

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20 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

So, who would take that loss?  The landlords, mortgage companies, or the taxpayers?

The country would cover those costs...federal dollars...so the tax payers, yep that's what I'm hearing.  That will really get the racists all up in arms.  They won't find that fair at all.  😂

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16 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Be that as it may, and you can blame McDonnell if you want although imo lots of blame to go around on both sides, but it is Congress' job to get this done.

As it is now,  it is a questionable if DACA is legal because of how it was implemented,  and I doubt this is the last fight on it.

The spotlight is squarely on McConnell.  That means that the cult member must assert that there's blame on both sides. The GOP owns the problems with DACA just like they own the problems with Trump.  As a group, they just aren't into accountability.  Why should they be when they have a cult which will defend them with propaganda?

The evidence pretty clearly demonstrates that the GOP isn't really interested in governing for we the people...more than 20 years of recent data...

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21 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

I think there are quite a few folks who didnt know what it was until recently.  And many still dont.  That doesnt make one a racist.

I had heard of it before, but had no idea what Juneteenth was celebrating.  Because I didnt make it a point to find out makes me a racist?

 

😂

Still don't understand what gets folks labeled as a racist, eh? That's cute though...

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Nothing racist about being ignorant about Junteenth. Most people outside Texas didn't know about it, although the day no Americans were "property" any more should have been in our history books. (IMO)

BUT the White people who violently destroyed the Greenwood community burning, robbing, and murdering Negros, because of their race and success, in the worst race riot in OUR country were clearly racist. Those who hid, ignored, denied, and kept this fact out of news and history reports were acting as dishonest racists too. 

The mostly White citizens of Tulsa who celebrated Junteenth yesterday were NOT behaving like racists. 

Hal Singer, a renowned jazz band leader and saxophonist, is among the last survivors of the 1921 Tulsa race massacre when he was two years old. This article is interesting:   https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/hes-100-a-renowned-jazz-musician-and-a-survivor-of-tulsas-1921-race-massacre/

He was my Dad's friend. We heard him at "The Manne-Hole" jazz club where I also got to hear Mose Allison and Jimmy Smith. He and my Dad were in their fifties then. 

 

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