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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

Found an interesting tid bit about Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany feeding the myth that voting by mail invites fraud.  She voted by male 11 times.

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/05/27/trump-press-secretary-kayleigh-mcenany-has-voted-by-mail-11-times-in-10-years/

Haha.....I first read this post and thought it was going to be about she was mistakenly registered as a male.

I havent had my coffee yet.

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6 hours ago, MunoRN said:

I knew I recognized the author's name from somewhere, It wasn't until Herring's post that I remembered recently reading an article about Q-anon, and that one of their core beliefs has become that JFK jr faked his death and is actually Q, the person who came up with that theory is Liz Crokin, the author of Lucy's article.

Just because someone is a "prominent voice" in Q-anon doesn't mean everything they say is false, so lets' review the author's claims.

1.  Trump is actually an altruistically generous person, as evidenced by donating money to a woman to keep her farm after husband committed suicide.

Trump donated approximately $20,000 to a woman to help her keep her farm, a small portion of the money required, and organized an extravagant press conference to publicize the donation.  The positive PR press he got as a result was well in excess of $200,000 in PR costs, even in 1987 dollars, hardly 'altruistic'.

2.  Trump paid off the mortgage of someone who changed the tire on his limo. 

This is one of the most repeated urban legends of all time.  Best guess is that it started with an Oscar Wilde story, it was then repeated in reference to Henry Ford, Nat King Cole, Perry Como, Leon Spinks, Bill Gates, and now Trump.  There is no more evidence to support that this actually happened with Trump than with any of the other cases.

That leaves us with charitable use of his private jets, which is far below the typical charitable use of private jets.  There are numerous charitable organizations that exist for the sole purpose of making use of the jets of rich people for charitable purposes when they aren't using them, and given the amount of time Trump has owned private jets his limited examples of offering it for charitable purposes is concerningly low.

Not only is Trump's chartable giving record surprisingly sparse, he has had a charitable organization, which he apparently used as a way of diverting charitable funds to himself, which is a purely sociopathic way of behaving. 

This isn't hypothetical, Courts have forced him to shutter his 'charitable' organizations because he was embezzling those funds for personal use, including a such necessities as a Tim Tebow signed football and a personal portrait.  

Long story short, he took money people gave to help really unfortunate individuals and illegally used it to feed his ego and personal vanities, he's a ***ing scumbag, it really is just as simple as it appears.  

Yep.  You and Herring are correct .  Shes a nut bag.  And, the tire change appears and sounds like a urban legend.

The other stuff, you'll see them how you want, I suppose.

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19 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

"As an entertainment journalist, I've had the opportunity to cover Trump for over a decade, and in all my years covering him I've never heard anything negative about the man until he announced he was running for president. Keep in mind, I got paid a lot of money to dig up dirt on celebrities like Trump for a living, so a scandalous story on the famous billionaire could've potentially sold a lot of magazines and would've been a Yuge feather in my cap.

Instead, I found that he doesn't drink alcohol or do drugs. He's a hardworking businessman.

On top of that, he's one of the most generous celebrities in the world, with a heart filled with more gold than his $100 million New York penthouse."

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/04/trump-does-unthinkable-frontpagemagcom/?fbclid=IwAR3MmNlp8TPk317LH31yWGFzoxZSo6tt4lmltvmpQTYZEXNOKImxE-hV_BM#.XsyFb6kj9jg.facebook

Ha, ha, ha, ha. 😂😂😂😂

Seriously?????

Should this not belong over in the Lounge section? There is a thread called "Game of Groans" specifically for nonsense.

 

From 2011 when trump was lying his way across Scotland as just one example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADecI4xw-yg

 

From September 2016; 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/26/13016146/donald-trump-liar-media

 

 

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1 hour ago, Lucylu71 said:

I think there is also a general assumption that in person voting should always be allowed.  So, if your going to narrow it down to one method to give a state the best chance of managing the voting method competently,  I would go with the method that we've used since the late 1700's. 

Each person shows up, gets a ballot, turns it in, it gets counted.  Not much simpler then that. 

Yes. It is simple.

Is that why your leader is incapable of doing in-person voting?

Same goes for his press secretary, who is also incapable of an act which you describe as simple.

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1 hour ago, Lucylu71 said:

Yep.  You and Herring are correct .  Shes a nut bag.  And, the tire change appears and sounds like a urban legend.

The other stuff, you'll see them how you want, I suppose.

She's a nut bag?

Anybody attempting to portray Trump as a kind, caring and compassionate person, is off their Zyprexa.

 

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2 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

I think there is also a general assumption that in person voting should always be allowed.  So, if your going to narrow it down to one method to give a state the best chance of managing the voting method competently,  I would go with the method that we've used since the late 1700's. 

Each person shows up, gets a ballot, turns it in, it gets counted.  Not much simpler then that. 

So now the narrative will get shifted, AGAIN.

Please link to the proposal that all voting should be done by mail in ballot with no in person option. It's already been proven that the GOP is practiced at devising ways to obstruct in person voting...now you're giving them cover for limiting mailed ballots too. It's almost like conservatives don't believe in the trappings of a democracy at all. 

If only you weren't ignoring the real evidence of the destruction of our republic and constitutional limits of power while gas lighting us about voting fraud.

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27 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So now the narrative will get shifted, AGAIN.

Please link to the proposal that all voting should be done by mail in ballot with no in person option. It's already been proven that the GOP is practiced at devising ways to obstruct in person voting...now you're giving them cover for limiting mailed ballots too. It's almost like conservatives don't believe in the trappings of a democracy at all. 

If only you weren't ignoring the real evidence of the destruction of our republic and constitutional limits of power while gas lighting us about voting fraud.

The constantly shifting narratives, coupled with the need to portray Trump as anything but what he actually is, is simply further proof that Trumpsters recognize they have nothing in the tank.

Poor things are very worried about November!

It is painfully obvious.

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So now the narrative will get shifted, AGAIN.

Please link to the proposal that all voting should be done by mail in ballot with no in person option. It's already been proven that the GOP is practiced at devising ways to obstruct in person voting...now you're giving them cover for limiting mailed ballots too. It's almost like conservatives don't believe in the trappings of a democracy at all. 

If only you weren't ignoring the real evidence of the destruction of our republic and constitutional limits of power while gas lighting us about voting fraud.

Once again, my post was not read in the context it was intended.  

My reply was to Muno, who floated the idea that IF there was to be one method, it should be by mail and the reasons for it.  So, I countered with what I think should be the one method if we were to do that.

I would encourage all who reply to my posts to look at the post I am replying to.  It my save someone from appearing foolish.

Of course I realize that just like when you comment on what Trump or anyone else disagree with says, it's much easier to twist them into what you want it to mean if you ignore the context.

 

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1 hour ago, Lucylu71 said:

Once again, my post was not read in the context it was intended.  

My reply was to Muno, who floated the idea that IF there was to be one method, it should be by mail and the reasons for it.  So, I countered with what I think should be the one method if we were to do that.

I would encourage all who reply to my posts to look at the post I am replying to.  It my save someone from appearing foolish.

Of course I realize that just like when you comment on what Trump or anyone else disagree with says, it's much easier to twist them into what you want it to mean if you ignore the context.

 

I asked you a question, which you haven't answered, dude.

Let me ask again.

Why can't your leader successfully participate in an exercise you deemed easy; in-person voting?

Why can't his press secretary engage in this simple task?

The only folks I see as appearing to be foolish, are those who insist on peddling the false narrative, or lie, about Trump being a compassionate and hardworking guy.

Everybody else is rational.

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1 hour ago, Lucylu71 said:

Once again, my post was not read in the context it was intended.  

My reply was to Muno, who floated the idea that IF there was to be one method, it should be by mail and the reasons for it.  So, I countered with what I think should be the one method if we were to do that.

I would encourage all who reply to my posts to look at the post I am replying to.  It my save someone from appearing foolish.

Of course I realize that just like when you comment on what Trump or anyone else disagree with says, it's much easier to twist them into what you want it to mean if you ignore the context.

 

Nah. I will answer your Trump apologist nonsense and propaganda exactly as I prefer. My guess is that no one is going to take advice on avoiding the appearance of foolishness from a person who regularly posts propaganda, Trumpian delusion and right wing nonsense. 

No twisting is required when most of the GOP talking points and arguments about voter fraud are already proven to baseless fear mongering.  

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5 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

I think there is also a general assumption that in person voting should always be allowed.  So, if your going to narrow it down to one method to give a state the best chance of managing the voting method competently,  I would go with the method that we've used since the late 1700's. 

Each person shows up, gets a ballot, turns it in, it gets counted.  Not much simpler then that. 

What do you see as the advantage to a method that is less accessible?  As an example, this would prevent a large portion of those in the military from voting, if someone is serving their country in the military why shouldn't they be able to vote?

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1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

What do you see as the advantage to a method that is less accessible?  As an example, this would prevent a large portion of those in the military from voting, if someone is serving their country in the military why shouldn't they be able to vote?

I've never said there should just be one or the other.  I said I would prefer in person voting, with some exceptions allowed.  I think the pluses and minuses of each method have been covered.  I stated that imo, the political parties have their reasons, that I dont necessarily buy into.

In your hypothetical,  you stated why if there is just one, it should be by mail.  I countered with my opinion.

I dont have much more to say.

 

 

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