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10 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

 

Neither of your statements is based in reality or fact.

One, is simply parroting Trump.

Maybe the other one is too, I don't know.

Aside from neither being based on fact, just pure emotion, the underlying premise of both, seem to echo Donnie Jr.'s comments.

Sadly, they really need to believe that it's being overhyped on purpose just to make Trump look bad, so that when they hear the truth (such as was presented in the article Lucylu71 posted) they can stay in denial.  

This is one time I do hope they are right that it's much ado about nothing and it as Trump says, "one day will just be gone".   

I've already offered my opinion that it's overhyped but not because the fake news media wants to bring down Trump.  If nothing else it has people washing their hands.

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10 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

"Serological testing of a large number of people in a community is necessary in order to pick up asymptomatic cases and arrive at a “denominator” number of actual people infected (though possibly not sick). (A serological test for antibodies is not the same as the (RT)-PCR test now being used to diagnose COVID-19 disease.) Usually, once this more accurate count of infections can be made, the denominator increases (often significantly) and the death rate goes down—not up. In other words, we may be seeing the worst of this infection now, among already identified cases, and we are likely to see the death rate drop in the future. A serologic test for this coronavirus appears to be on the horizon, and may soon be available to help with tracking and controlling the spread of this virus."

Lots of good info in this article:

https://ajnoffthecharts.com/covid-19-for-nurses-skip-the-rumors-and-stick-to-the-basics/

Since the prevalence of the 1918 flu pandemic wasn't based on serology testing, that wouldn't be an accurate comparison since you would be comparing rates with different denominators.

The mortality rate of those infected was based on the number of deaths per population with observable symptoms and transmission criteria, similar to our current basis for the coronavirus mortality rate.  

Although to consider the number of deaths that would occur today the number of reliably confirmed infections isn't really relevant.

The world population at the beginning of the 1918 pandemic was about 1.8 billion, the number of deaths that resulted is often quoted at 50 million, although for the sake of argument we'll use a more conservative 30 million.  That means the pandemic killed 2.2 percent of the world's population.  To apply that to the United States now, that would be 2.2 percent of 330 million, which is 7,260,000 people.  

Of course that doesn't mean that we can expect 7 million to die in the US, but given the similarities we clearly shouldn't feel confident or even feel it's likely this will be minor.

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11 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

For starters, demographics.  The 1918 flu had a high mortality for every age group.  Not so with this coronavirus.

Coronavirus death so far have been linear relative age, the older you are the more likely you are to die, the 1918 flu wasn't evenly spread out by age group either: "Mortality was high in people younger than 5 years old, 20-40 years old, and 65 years and older. The high mortality in healthy people, including those in the 20-40 year age group, was a unique feature of this pandemic."

The rate of exponential spread is similar so far to that of the 1918 flu, and geographically speaking it has actually spread much faster, it took at least a full year for it to spread from Asia to the US, although this was more likely explained by prevalence of air travel.

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9 hours ago, Tweety said:

Sadly, they really need to believe that it's being overhyped on purpose just to make Trump look bad, so that when they hear the truth (such as was presented in the article Lucylu71 posted) they can stay in denial.  

This is one time I do hope they are right that it's much ado about nothing and it as Trump says, "one day will just be gone".   

I've already offered my opinion that it's overhyped but not because the fake news media wants to bring down Trump.  If nothing else it has people washing their hands.

Yes.

And since when is an OPINION piece evidence of anything other than the writer's OPINION?

I often refer readers to these posts to columns by True Conservative Jennifer Rubin.

But I am not foolish enough to believe that all True Conservatives think like her, or agree with her assessments.

But you see, this is how purposeful misinformation campaigns operate.

The goal is to sow discord, while supporting the Cult leader.

 

 

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Wow.

The US has experienced a second death, related to coronavirus, and worldwide, 3000 deaths have been attributed to the illness.

Yet, some, are content to spread misinformation, albeit Trumpspeak, on the topic.

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6 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

Wow.

The US has experienced a second death, related to coronavirus, and worldwide, 3000 deaths have been attributed to the illness.

Yet, some, are content to spread misinformation, albeit Trumpspeak, on the topic.

There also have been 18,000 deaths and 33 million influenza cases and people go "meh".  So I can understand that people are wondering if it's over-hyped.

The "Trumpspeak" is that the coronavirus is overhyped deliberately to bring down Trump.  

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Continuity is comforting, isn't it?

Nice to see that Trump will continue with moronic behavior as schools are closed in WA state, firefighters quarantined, and a second person dies.

From today's WaPo:

Trump ReTweets Video Of Him Defeating His Critics After Second US Coronavirus Death

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4 minutes ago, Tweety said:

There also have been 18,000 deaths and 33 million influenza cases and people go "meh".  So I can understand that people are wondering if it's over-hyped.

The "Trumpspeak" is that the coronavirus is overhyped deliberately to bring down Trump.  

Not me!!!

I encourage all who see me at the HD to get a flu shot.

When parents of young children don't want to vaccinate, I tell them the numbers of kids who have died from flu this year.

Ignorance is not bliss!

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10 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

Not me!!!

I encourage all who see me at the HD to get a flu shot.

When parents of young children don't want to vaccinate, I tell them the numbers of kids who have died from flu this year.

Ignorance is not bliss!

Agree.

We now have two presumptive cases here in Tampa Bay of corona virus and I don't want to get the impression that I'm not concerned or blowing it off.  It's real, and I think it's bigger than we know.

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The Trump team made a pathetic stab at combating the spread and failed.  They should be focusing on mitigation. Oh wait, they aren't prepared for that either. 

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Death toll in Washington state is now at 6, two infected (1 resident, 1 associate) at a nursing home that has now suspended visitor access. 

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So this is kind of catty, but we live in a day of "body positivity" where it's not okay to mock someone's physical attributes.  

But maybe I'm wrong because the President of the United States is doing the mocking, people are delighted, and Fox News is reporting it like it's acceptable behavior befitting a President.

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President Trump on Saturday delighted supporters at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) by crouching behind a podium as he mocked billionaire Democratic presidential hopeful Michael Bloomberg's performance at a recent debate.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-mocks-bloombergs-height-by-crouching-behind-podium-at-cpac

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