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6 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

The media is not just reporting the facts, they are overhyping it all and exploring every angle they can to find ways to blame Trump for it.  And, all this and the virus has barely touched our shores thus far.

 

I agree that the media is overhyping the situation.  It's what they do.  

The news is right now about the primary but even Fox News is getting in on it. 

I'll disagree they are only overhyping the story just to find a way to blame Trump for it.  

But yes, they are critiquing and watching his every move.  Again this is what the press does.  They did the same to Obama during Ebola, reporting his response and how it was handled, it Fox News and Republicans wildly criticized him.  They did the same to Bush during 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina.  It's what they do.

Trump's press conference the other day about the situation, (granted he was tired and jet lagged), is being called one of the worst press conferences he's ever given and that's saying a lot.  Some commenters are saying the stock market reacted very negatively to this press conference.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/26/coronavirus-trump-press-conference-117813

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6 hours ago, herring_RN said:

Overhyped Coronavirus Weaponized Against Trump

RUSH: Folks, this coronavirus thing, I want to try to put this in perspective for you. It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump. Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus. (interruption) You think I’m wrong about this? You think I’m missing it by saying that’s… (interruption)

Yeah, I’m dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks.

 The Drive-By Media hype of this thing as a pandemic, as the Andromeda strain, as, “Oh, my God, if you get it, you’re dead.” Do you know what the — I think the survival rate is 98%. Ninety-eight percent of people get the coronavirus survive. It’s a respiratory system virus.

 It probably is a ChiCom laboratory experiment that is in the process of being weaponized.

 All superpower nations weaponize bioweapons. They experiment with them. The Russians, for example, have weaponized fentanyl. Now, fentanyl is also not what it is represented to be.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200225030017/https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/02/24/overhyped-coronavirus-weaponized-against-trump/

 

Thank you for posting, herring.

I knew I was right.

The Fentanyl remark was interesting.

Let us not forget that Rush has a history of opioid abuse.

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7 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

He never referred the the pandemic as a hoax.

 

7 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

The media is not just reporting the facts, they are overhyping it all and exploring every angle they can to find ways to blame Trump for it.  And, all this and the virus has barely touched our shores thus far.

 

There's an admirable tendency to take something Trump says that lacks clarity, and assume what he meant to say was something informed and/or reasonable, until he goes out of his way to insist he actually meant the misinformed and/or unreasoned interpretation. In this case, my first assumption that the "hoax" he was referring to was the supposed claim that democrats are blaming Trump for the virus existing, which I would agree is a "hoax", but then he points out that he's actually saying that this isn't likely to be a pandemic.  He was basically hand-fed the opportunity to clarify that at a press conference today, and yet still couldn't manage to that.

He said this at a press conference today about the number of Americans infected and what to expect going forward: "And again when you have 15 people - and the 15 within a couple of days will be down close to zero - that's a pretty good jobs we've done".  That is possibly one of the most stupid statements ever uttered by a human being.

The COVID-19 virus has a nearly identical mortality rate to the 1918 flu pandemic, and while it's not yet clear if the virulence is also comparable, if it is then that would result in 7 million deaths in the US alone.  That's not a small deal and can't really be overhyped.  

The same was true of his other frequent references to a "hoax", mainly Russia and Impeachment, both of which he wildly mischaracterized.  Russia clearly interfered using propaganda and there were members of his campaign with ties to the Russian government, it's also clear that he did in fact suggest withholding security aid to Ukraine in exchange for a personal political favor.  

And even if what he's talking about is if he or administration is deserving of any criticism over our readiness for an epidemic, or their handling of COVID-19 then it's hard to say there isn't valid criticism.  Trump effectively shuttered the pandemic preparation office the CDC when he took office, which is a big reason why the rollout of testing kits has been bungled, we still don't have kits at my hospital.  Their comprehension of the situation is also pretty clearly deserving of criticism, both his chief of staff and head of homeland security publically claimed that the mortality rate of COVID-19 is similar to that of the typical flu, it's actually about 25 times more deadly.  

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From today's WaPo:

Trump Mocks Democratic Rivals, Engages In Name Calling...

The old man was addressing CPAC, and even for Trump, made quite a spectacle of himself.

He again made fun of Bloomberg's height, and again referred to coronavirus as Democrats "hoax."

And again, he did the weird and creepy move of hugging the US flag, and kissing it awkwardly.

I wouldn't waste a second of my life defending such a moron.

What an embarrassing train wreck!

Oh, I believe the word he used to describe Mitt Romney was 'dirtbag.'

 

 

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35 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

 

There's an admirable tendency to take something Trump says that lacks clarity, and assume what he meant to say was something informed and/or reasonable, until he goes out of his way to insist he actually meant the misinformed and/or unreasoned interpretation. In this case, my first assumption that the "hoax" he was referring to was the supposed claim that democrats are blaming Trump for the virus existing, which I would agree is a "hoax", but then he points out that he's actually saying that this isn't likely to be a pandemic.  He was basically hand-fed the opportunity to clarify that at a press conference today, and yet still couldn't manage to that.

He said this at a press conference today about the number of Americans infected and what to expect going forward: "And again when you have 15 people - and the 15 within a couple of days will be down close to zero - that's a pretty good jobs we've done".  That is possibly one of the most stupid statements ever uttered by a human being.

The COVID-19 virus has a nearly identical mortality rate to the 1918 flu pandemic, and while it's not yet clear if the virulence is also comparable, if it is then that would result in 7 million deaths in the US alone.  That's not a small deal and can't really be overhyped.  

The same was true of his other frequent references to a "hoax", mainly Russia and Impeachment, both of which he wildly mischaracterized.  Russia clearly interfered using propaganda and there were members of his campaign with ties to the Russian government, it's also clear that he did in fact suggest withholding security aid to Ukraine in exchange for a personal political favor.  

And even if what he's talking about is if he or administration is deserving of any criticism over our readiness for an epidemic, or their handling of COVID-19 then it's hard to say there isn't valid criticism.  Trump effectively shuttered the pandemic preparation office the CDC when he took office, which is a big reason why the rollout of testing kits has been bungled, we still don't have kits at my hospital.  Their comprehension of the situation is also pretty clearly deserving of criticism, both his chief of staff and head of homeland security publically claimed that the mortality rate of COVID-19 is similar to that of the typical flu, it's actually about 25 times more deadly.  

Of course it isn't overhyped.

How do you overhype a pandemic?

 

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From today's NY Times:

How Does Coronavirus Compare To Seasonal Flu

I urge Trump and Friends to read this article.

They MIGHT learn something.

For instance, I learned the typical person infected with flu, goes on to infect 1.3 other people.

With coronavirus, it is 2.2.

And I learned, that Mick Mulvaney is every bit the amoral idiot I always thought he was.

He actually said that coronavirus isn't a death sentence!

I hope he relays that message to the family of the man felled yesterday, by the virus.

He needs to deliver that message personally.

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It sounds like a health care worker is infected in Washington.  

Lots and lots of people in Alaska travel to Washington and Oregon for health care. 

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45 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It sounds like a health care worker is infected in Washington.  

Lots and lots of people in Alaska travel to Washington and Oregon for health care. 

NY Times is reporting that coronavirus has possibly been circulating in WA state for weeks.

Scary photo of someone holding up sheet to shield patient, wearing only a face mask; no other protective gear.

 

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2 hours ago, MunoRN said:

He said this at a press conference today about the number of Americans infected and what to expect going forward: "And again when you have 15 people - and the 15 within a couple of days will be down close to zero - that's a pretty good jobs we've done".  That is possibly one of the most stupid statements ever uttered by a human being.

The press conference in which he said "15" was 4 days ago.  And accurate at the time.

Saying they would soon be down to zero was indeed stupid.

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10 hours ago, MunoRN said:

Their comprehension of the situation is also pretty clearly deserving of criticism, both his chief of staff and head of homeland security publically claimed that the mortality rate of COVID-19 is similar to that of the typical flu, it's actually about 25 times more deadly.  

We don't know that.  You'd have to test large population to get that number.  Right now we are only testing known sick people who fit a certain criteria.

There are others infected out there who only have mild or no symptoms who are not being counted.

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10 hours ago, MunoRN said:

The COVID-19 virus has a nearly identical mortality rate to the 1918 flu pandemic, and while it's not yet clear if the virulence is also comparable, if it is then that would result in 7 million deaths in the US alone.  That's not a small deal and can't really be overhyped.  

Actually, there are clear signs that it is not nearly virulent.  So any comparison to the 1918 flu and suggesting 7 million in the US will die is overhyping the current situation.

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