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Here in Los Angeles our Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP) is the largest municipal utility in the United States, serving over four million residents. Our rates are MUCH lower than those of the private corporations water and electricity. We have only had one total blackout since 1917 when the Northridge earthquake happened in 1994. (I was at work bathing a patient.) The LADWP restored most electricity in a few hours. 

Here is an opinion:

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Column: California fires show it’s private enterprise, not government, that can’t get things right

Critics of public sector inefficiencies have long declared that “government should be run like a business.”

A business such as, say, Pacific Gas & Electric?

The current wildfire crisis in California should serve as an object lesson in the folly of expecting private enterprise to operate in the service of the public interest...

...   But the electricity shutoffs across the state, aimed at reducing the chance that a spark from utility equipment will start a fire, are the handiwork of our private utilities, artifacts of their failure to spend more money on their infrastructure rather than shareholder dividends. 

Federal Judge William Alsup of San Francisco, who is overseeing PG&E’s probation after its criminal conviction in connection with the 2010 gas line explosion that killed eight in San Bruno, implicitly acknowledged as much in an order last January. In his order, Alsup tasked the company to “remove or trim all trees that could fall onto its power lines” as well as “identify and fix all conductors that might swing together and arc ... under high-wind conditions,” among other steps that the company had been expected to take under existing law. Alsup observed that California fire authorities blamed PG&E for 18 wildfires in 2017 and referred 12 of them for possible criminal prosecution...

...   In July, Judge Alsup further criticized the company for spending on campaign contributions “even quite recently” and distributing $5 billion in shareholder dividends prior to filing for bankruptcy. He demanded to know why the company had made those expenditures instead of “replacing or repairing [its] aging transmission lines ... and removing or trimming the backlog of hazard trees.” PG&E replied that it engaged in the political process “to ensure that the concerns of customers, shareholders and employees are adequately represented before lawmakers and regulators,” and paid dividends to keep its shares desirable enough to allow it to raise money in the capital markets. PG&E isn’t the only private company to be charged with breaching its duty to public service, although as the nation’s largest private utility its behavior stands out...

...   With the company now in bankruptcy, PG&E shares are now trading at about $4 and the whole company could be had for just over $2 billion.

One argument against that move is that there’s no guarantee that state management would be better than private management. That’s possible, but PG&E’s successive managements haven’t left all that much room for lousier performance. Moreover, state ownership would at least place the public interest ahead of that of shareholders, since there wouldn’t be any shareholders. The time may have come to turn over PG&E to government ownership, and see if its culture can be changed. ...

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-10-28/california-fires-private-enterprise

 

 

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4 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The executives and shareholders of PG&E have been squeezing dollars from infrastructure improvement and maintenance to increase their profits for years now.  Today the aging system is vulnerable to high winds and the practice of starting and stopping power also has an unintended consequence of creating sparking. 

In the most recent fires, I'm not aware of PG&E equipment causing any fires.  Unless you count a tree branch falling on it.  Which gies back to the forest mismanagement.

The starting and stopping of power is actually done to prevent fires being started by equipment.

There are two sides to this story.  We can agree disagree with different POV on it.

Many people on both sides agree with Trump on it.  It's not an outlandish thing he said.

 

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1 hour ago, GrumpyRN said:

OK...... I am in the UK, can you detail or list these bad policies please.

Serious request as I do not have the access you guys have.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/11/27/trumps-right-about-californias-fires-it-wasnt-climate-change-two-new-california-laws-prove-it/#3f190c9e22e3

Trump said it last year as well during fire season and I won't argue that it doesn't have it's merits.  But like Puerto Rico after the hurricane he has a way of kicking people when they are down, as if they are responsible for the dry weather and the high winds.

California, long progressive and Democrat and Trump have been at odds for a while.  Florida battles wildfires yearly as well and currently I believe has five going on, with no criticism from Trump.  Florida is crazy about Trump.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/3/20946645/trump-california-wildfires-cut-federal-aid-gavin-newsom

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On 11/3/2019 at 12:33 PM, Lil Nel said:

Did you catch he was BOOED at MSG, last night, at a supposedly "safe" event for him to attend.

The video I just saw was mostly cheerng, with one rather loud booer close by whoever was recording.  Might have been his recording.  I'm sure there were a few more boos, but for the most part it seemed it was a positive response from the crowd.

Of course, the liberal media has developed a cult following that is ready and willing to believe whatever headline will foster their blind hatred for our president.

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Hope you all caught coverage of Trump's latest loss in the courts over hiding his tax returns.

Looks like his next stop is the US Supreme Court.

Isn't it ironic, that Trump works so hard to keep those tax returns secret, while whinning daily about the identity of a whistleblower, who is actually protected by federal law.

Hmm.

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Oh, don't forget that Roger Stone's trial begins today.

He was one of the many witches, belonging to the Trump covenant, to be caught by Robert Mueller.

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I am against Trump for the policies that he and his administration support and work to enact. Those policies are easily researchable. . . and are down-right awful. How can ANYONE continue to support Trump?!? Shame on Trump, and shame on anyone who continues to support Trump and his dangerous societal and political filth.

Trump: Our country's WORST mistake of the 21st Century.

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US votes against UN resolution condemning Gay sex death penalty, joining Iraq and Saudi Arabia

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So the President Tweeted using his office to promote financial gain for his son.   All the while his son just accused Biden of using his father's office for gain.  Hypocrite much?

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My son,

@DonaldJTrumpJr

is coming out with a new book, “Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us” – available tomorrow, November 5th! A great new book that I highly recommend for ALL to read. Go order it today!

 

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1 hour ago, Ted said:

I am against Trump for the policies that he and his administration support and work to enact. Those policies are easily researchable. . . and are down-right awful. How can ANYONE continue to support Trump?!? Shame on Trump, and shame on anyone who continues to support Trump and his dangerous societal and political filth.

Trump: Our country's WORST mistake of the 21st Century.

😡

US votes against UN resolution condemning Gay sex death penalty, joining Iraq and Saudi Arabia

I think we covered this two years ago when this happened.  But, here you go:

"Jessica Stern, executive director of OutRight Action International, a global LGBTQ human rights organization, acknowledged the U.S. vote on the U.N. resolution was misconstrued." - https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/following-backlash-us-clarifies-un-vote-death-penalty-gays-n807151

 

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12 hours ago, MoondoggieRN said:

The video I just saw was mostly cheerng, with one rather loud booer close by whoever was recording.  Might have been his recording.  I'm sure there were a few more boos, but for the most part it seemed it was a positive response from the crowd.

Of course, the liberal media has developed a cult following that is ready and willing to believe whatever headline will foster their blind hatred for our president.

Yep, you can clearly hear one person boo in a video someone put out.  But the people that were there are saying the boos were indeed significant. One saying the boos were "deafening".

So you see mostly cheering, and someone else hears boos.  I suppose it's whose side you're on.  I imagine it was a mixture of the two and the boos weren't deafening.

I think the story, as Nel pointed out, was that an event such as this should have been more of a place where the boos wouldn't make the news.

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/3/20946326/trump-booed-ufc-new-york

Of course, the conservative media has developed a cult following that is ready and willing to not believe the truth when it's staring them in the face to foster their blind following for our president.

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