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6 hours ago, MoondoggieRN said:

Interesting.

i wonder why his family left Greece when he was a child?  Why in his 20+ years as an adult didn’t he take care of his immigration status?  He didn’t learn any Iraqi from his family?  There was no way to be communicated that he was a diabetic and needed insulin?

Only the predisposed Trump hater would have a view so clouded by their bias would conclude that this mans death was at the hands of the Trump administration.

These are good questions. From the articles I read, the man's family had fled to Greece as refugees, and then came to the USA when he was 6 months old. To my way of thinking, he may not have ever known that he was not born in the USA. And I don't think it is unusual due to bigotry and racism, that a family would not want to teach their child a Middle Eastern language. Also Mr. Aldaoud suffered from schizophrenia which almost by definition, interrupts one's thought processes. I saw a video on Twitter of Mr. Aldaoud made after he was in Iraq, saying that he could not speak the language, was living on the street with no insulin, and had been attacked at least once. 

https://www.michiganradio.org/post/southeast-michigan-man-dies-two-months-after-deportation-iraq

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/iraqi-man-dies-deportation-trump-administration-1643512

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33 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

These are good questions. From the articles I read, the man's family had fled to Greece as refugees, and then came to the USA when he was 6 months old. To my way of thinking, he may not have ever known that he was not born in the USA. And I don't think it is unusual due to bigotry and racism, that a family would not want to teach their child a Middle Eastern language. Also Mr. Aldaoud suffered from schizophrenia which almost by definition, interrupts one's thought processes. I saw a video on Twitter of Mr. Aldaoud made after he was in Iraq, saying that he could not speak the language, was living on the street with no insulin, and had been attacked at least once. 

https://www.michiganradio.org/post/southeast-michigan-man-dies-two-months-after-deportation-iraq

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/iraqi-man-dies-deportation-trump-administration-1643512

I doubt that the Trump administration recognizes any responsibility for his death. I don't expect any meaningful comment from the people who merely looked the other way when a legal American resident was murdered by the Saudi despot who wants to buy weapons of war from the "businessman" president.

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I doubt that the Trump administration recognizes any responsibility for his death. I don't expect any meaningful comment from the people who merely looked the other way when a legal American resident was murdered by the Saudi despot who wants to buy weapons of war from the "businessman" president.

What makes him a legal resident?

Funny how you haven’t mentioned he had twice before had orders for removal.  Any if those before Trump by any chance?  Funny you didn’t mention his lengthy criminal record.

No, the administration shouldn’t recognize any responsibility for his death.  And most Americans would agree.

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2 hours ago, nursej22 said:

To my way of thinking, he may not have ever known he wasn’t born in the USA

According to your article, he had orders for removal at least twice.  That would indicate he must have known he wasn’t a legal resident.

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31 minutes ago, MoondoggieRN said:

What makes him a legal resident?

Funny how you haven’t mentioned he had twice before had orders for removal.  Any if those before Trump by any chance?  Funny you didn’t mention his lengthy criminal record.

No, the administration shouldn’t recognize any responsibility for his death.  And most Americans would agree.

Journalist Jamal Khashoggi was a legal resident of the United States and could work here because he held a "Green Card".

I think different posters may be talking about different people.

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said: 

I doubt that the Trump administration recognizes any responsibility for his death. I don't expect any meaningful comment from the people who merely looked the other way when a legal American resident was murdered by the Saudi despot who wants to buy weapons of war from the "businessman" president.

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I doubt that the Trump administration recognizes any responsibility for his death. I don't expect any meaningful comment from the people who merely looked the other way when a legal American resident was murdered by the Saudi despot who wants to buy weapons of war from the "businessman" president.

 

49 minutes ago, MoondoggieRN said:

What makes him a legal resident?

Funny how you haven’t mentioned he had twice before had orders for removal.  Any if those before Trump by any chance?  Funny you didn’t mention his lengthy criminal record.

No, the administration shouldn’t recognize any responsibility for his death.  And most Americans would agree.

Don't know why you did not understand that toomuchbaloney was referring to an entirely different person in the bolded section. It's quite clear that she is referring to slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi in this post.

 

And most Americans would agree.

And you know this how?

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So happy my thread that's over 2 1/2 years was reopened so we can bicker about whether it's "Iraqi" or "Arabic".  

 Jamal Khashoggi was not an American was he?

 

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My two cents is that it is not on Trump's hands that this man died.

That said, it's immoral in my book to go after people that have been here almost all their lives and know no other way of life other than American and have been contributors to our society.

For example, I find it appalling that a group of people can't stand a protest that insults the flag will deport a Veteran.  

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/06/12/ice-is-supposed-to-consider-service-when-deporting-veterans-it-hasnt-been/

Build the damn wall, stop illegal immigration, close the border to new illegals, do what you can but wasting effort on decent hard working people that have been here for decades is just cruel regardless of their status.  We take advantage of them in our fields, in our employment, toiling away in rich people's homes, send them to war, for decades but call them criminals and destroy them.  

Shameful.

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4 minutes ago, Tweety said:

So happy my thread that's over 2 1/2 years was reopened so we can bicker about whether it's "Iraqi" or "Arabic".  

 Jamal Khashoggi was not an American was he?

 

He was a legal resident of the USA working as a professional journalist for an esteemed American newspaper. He was allegedly murdered for his reporting.  There is no evidence that the Trump administration disapproves of such remedies for bad press coverage. 

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1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

He was a legal resident of the USA working as a professional journalist for an esteemed American newspaper. He was allegedly murdered for his reporting.  There is no evidence that the Trump administration disapproves of such remedies for bad press coverage. 

Gotcha.  Thanks.

I remember how it was universally condemned internationally except here in the States.

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Interesting article in today's WaPo:

Some White People Don't Want To Hear About Slavery Plantations Built By Slaves

I found the comments by plantation vistors, underscore the racial attitudes expressed by many Trump supporters.

It is an good read, and contains interesting facts, about slaves in the South.

For instance, they once made up 57% of the population, in South Carolina.

Check it out.

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8 minutes ago, Tweety said:

So happy my thread that's over 2 1/2 years was reopened so we can bicker about whether it's "Iraqi" or "Arabic".  

 Jamal Khashoggi was not an American was he?

 

Only some posters prefer to bicker over nonsense. Most of us want to talk about all of the ways Trump fails to uphold the ethics, professionalism  or expectations of his position. 

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