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I will give another example of what I am talking about.

Alex Jones.

The mainstream media refers to him as a Conservative.

Alex Jones is not a Conservative.

He is an alt-right provocateur.

It is important to call things by their proper name.

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I have a lot of 'improper names' I could use, but I suppose I should keep off this thread, as I am too disrespectful and distract from the quality of all the debates that y'all enjoy engaging in.

Carry on with your serious ruminations. 

I now return control of your screen .

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10-4

Over and Out. 

 

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From NPR:

Poll: Support For Impeachment Hearings Grows, But Americans Split On Way Forward

Some 52% of Americans want some action taken.

You can read the percentage breakdowns of those who support particular actions.

Only 39%, want no further action taken.

That number seems to be important because it reflects a steady number of support for Trump.

Low, as that number is, it has remained in place!

 

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2 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

From NPR:

Poll: Support For Impeachment Hearings Grows, But Americans Split On Way Forward

Some 52% of Americans want some action taken.

You can read the percentage breakdowns of those who support particular actions.

Only 39%, want no further action taken.

That number seems to be important because it reflects a steady number of support for Trump.

Low, as that number is, it has remained in place!

 

In my view, this small nugget of lotalty likely represents the Americans who depend upon Fox News and Donald Trump for their understanding of the Mueller investigation and findings.  These are the folks who are indoctrinated by the consistent spin of Fox, Breitbart, Drudge, etc. Those who choose narrow and limited media and journalism are vulnerable to propaganda. Conservatives have been encouraging media isolation within their ideological voting base for years now. 

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Did Trump really just imply, while sitting with the visiting president of Poland, that he's "always right" when it comes to matters of Trump said/they said?

You cannot make this stuff up.

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'I think I’d take it': In exclusive interview, Trump says he would listen if foreigners offered dirt on opponents

President Donald Trump may not alert the FBI if foreign governments offered damaging information against his 2020 rivals during the upcoming presidential race, he said, despite the deluge of investigations stemming from his campaign's interactions with Russians during the 2016 campaign...

...    Trump disputed the idea that if a foreign government provided information on a political opponent, it would be considered interference in our election process.

"It's not an interference, they have information -- I think I'd take it," Trump said. "If I thought there was something wrong, I'd go maybe to the FBI -- if I thought there was something wrong. But when somebody comes up with oppo research, right, they come up with oppo research, 'oh let's call the FBI.' The FBI doesn't have enough agents to take care of it. When you go and talk, honestly, to congressman, they all do it, they always have, and that's the way it is. It's called oppo research."

President Trump lamented the attention on his son, Donald Trump Jr., for his role in the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016. Stephanopoulos asked whether Trump Jr. should have taken the Russians' offer for "dirt" on then-candidate Hillary Clinton to the FBI.

"Somebody comes up and says, ‘hey, I have information on your opponent,' do you call the FBI?" Trump responded...

...   "I'll tell you what, I've seen a lot of things over my life. I don't think in my whole life I've ever called the FBI. In my whole life. You don't call the FBI. You throw somebody out of your office, you do whatever you do," Trump continued. "Oh, give me a break – life doesn't work that way."

"The FBI director said that is what should happen," Stephanopoulos replied, referring to comments FBI Director Christopher Wray made during congressional testimony last month, when he told lawmakers "the FBI would want to know about" any foreign election meddling.

But on Wednesday, the president refuted Wray's sentiment.

"The FBI director is wrong, because frankly it doesn't happen like that in life," Trump said. "Now maybe it will start happening, maybe today you'd think differently."...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/id-exclusive-interview-trump-listen-foreigners-offered-dirt/story?id=63669304 

 

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43 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

'I think I’d take it': In exclusive interview, Trump says he would listen if foreigners offered dirt on opponents

President Donald Trump may not alert the FBI if foreign governments offered damaging information against his 2020 rivals during the upcoming presidential race, he said, despite the deluge of investigations stemming from his campaign's interactions with Russians during the 2016 campaign...

...    Trump disputed the idea that if a foreign government provided information on a political opponent, it would be considered interference in our election process.

"It's not an interference, they have information -- I think I'd take it," Trump said. "If I thought there was something wrong, I'd go maybe to the FBI -- if I thought there was something wrong. But when somebody comes up with oppo research, right, they come up with oppo research, 'oh let's call the FBI.' The FBI doesn't have enough agents to take care of it. When you go and talk, honestly, to congressman, they all do it, they always have, and that's the way it is. It's called oppo research."

President Trump lamented the attention on his son, Donald Trump Jr., for his role in the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016. Stephanopoulos asked whether Trump Jr. should have taken the Russians' offer for "dirt" on then-candidate Hillary Clinton to the FBI.

"Somebody comes up and says, ‘hey, I have information on your opponent,' do you call the FBI?" Trump responded...

...   "I'll tell you what, I've seen a lot of things over my life. I don't think in my whole life I've ever called the FBI. In my whole life. You don't call the FBI. You throw somebody out of your office, you do whatever you do," Trump continued. "Oh, give me a break – life doesn't work that way."

"The FBI director said that is what should happen," Stephanopoulos replied, referring to comments FBI Director Christopher Wray made during congressional testimony last month, when he told lawmakers "the FBI would want to know about" any foreign election meddling.

But on Wednesday, the president refuted Wray's sentiment.

"The FBI director is wrong, because frankly it doesn't happen like that in life," Trump said. "Now maybe it will start happening, maybe today you'd think differently."...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/id-exclusive-interview-trump-listen-foreigners-offered-dirt/story?id=63669304 

 

 

Anyone but Trump, 2020.

The blight must go!

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Federal Election Campaign Laws

§ 30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition. It shall be unlawful for—

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or 

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.

(b) As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means—

(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22,24 except that the term “foreign national” shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or

(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act) and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.25...

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/feca.pdf 

There are many opinions regarding whether opposition research findings are a "Thing of Value".

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The article below is interesting with many facts I didn't know. I only quoted a small part. Someone may find it interesting.

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Partisan electoral interventions by the great powers: Introducing the PEIG Dataset

Dov H. Levin Carnegie Mellon University, USA Abstract Recent studies indicate that partisan electoral interventions, a situation where a foreign power tries to determine the election results in another country, can have significant effects on the election results in the targeted country as well as other important influences. Nevertheless, research on this topic has been hindered by a lack of systematic data of electoral interventions. In this article, I introduce the Partisan Electoral Intervention by the Great Powers dataset (PEIG), which provides data on all such interventions by the US and the USSR/Russia between 1946 and 2000....

...   Introduction Six decades of rigorous scholarship have greatly increased our knowledge about the causes and effects of various military and non-military forms of foreign interventions...

...   However by not studying partisan electoral interventions, quantitative IR scholars miss an important, common form of intervention. Between 1946 and 2000, the US and the Soviet Union/Russia have intervened in about one of every nine competitive national-level executive elections. Partisan electoral interventions have been found to have had significant effects on election results, frequently determining the identity of the winner (Levin, 2016).

Overt interventions of this kind have also been found to have significant effects on the views of the target public toward the intervener (Corstange and Marinov, 2012). Some qualitative scholars who have studied particular cases of electoral interventions at times credit, or blame, them with playing an important role in the subsequent nature of the regime in the target country and influencing the direction of its domestic and foreign policies...

...   Furthermore, with competitive elections now a significant feature of domestic politics in more than half of the states of the world (Freedom House, 2014), and military interventions becoming an increasingly costly endeavor even for powerful states, partisan electoral intervention, usually a non-violent type of intervention, is likely to become an ever more important tool in the arsenal of the great powers. Finally, partisan electoral interventions are acts that the side intervened against would usually see as hostile. Accordingly taking into account partisan electoral interventions (as a usually non-violent indicator of the relations between the intervener and target) may also help with another increasingly important concern in IR—measuring and explaining the quality of peace between states and not just the existence, or lack thereof, of violence...

https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Levin-study.pdf

 

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I don't think anybody posting on these threads, Left or Right, would describe George Will, as anything other than Conservative.

Which is why it is so interesting to me, that he Walked Away from the GOP, and continues to speak out against the harm DJT, causes our country daily.

From CNN:

George Will: Trump's 'Public And Constant' Damage To Our Country Worse Than Nixon's

Will talks about the moment he decided to Walk Away from the Republican party.

Smart man!

 

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Trump Chat.org

I came across this opportunity to chat about Trump while perusing YouTube this morning. It appears that conservatives have created another safe ideological bubble for those who feel uncomfortable stepping into the real world where people pay attention to the disqualifying incompetence and corruption of the Trump administration and talk about it.

 

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6 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Trump Chat.org

I came across this opportunity to chat about Trump while perusing YouTube this morning. It appears that conservatives have created another safe ideological bubble for those who feel uncomfortable stepping into the real world where people pay attention to the disqualifying incompetence and corruption of the Trump administration and talk about it.

 

How nice for the right-wing!

I guess there just aren't enough opportunities for Trumpsters to connect.

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