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So, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama, never invited Viktor Orban, the PM of Hungary to the WH, well, because he is a dictator.

But Trump welcomes him to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with open arms.

Anybody surprised?

The complacent Republicans, meanwhile, accuse Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib, of making anti-Semitic remarks.

Do those complacent Republicans not know that Hungary, under Orban, is the most anti-Semitic country in the EU?

No, I suppose they don't.

Complacent Republicans are not usually the curious type.

Appalling.

Absolutely appalling.

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3 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

So, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama, never invited Viktor Orban, the PM of Hungary to the WH, well, because he is a dictator.

But Trump welcomes him to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with open arms.

Anybody surprised?

The complacent Republicans, meanwhile, accuse Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib, of making anti-Semitic remarks.

Do those complacent Republicans not know that Hungary, under Orban, is the most anti-Semitic country in the EU?

No, I suppose they don't.

Complacent Republicans are not usually the curious type.

Appalling.

Absolutely appalling.

Newsweek

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"We are proud to stand together with the United States on fighting against illegal migration, on terrorism, and to protect and help the Christian communities all around the world," Orbán added.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/14/723077179/trump-greets-hungarys-hard-right-leader-in-oval-office

The Hungarian President has a lot in common with Trump.  They have the same agenda.  Trump loves that he's tough.  One difference is the Hungarian President is a lawyer and probably smarter than Trump, and probably doesn't lie on a daily basis, and has done most of his agenda by changing things legally.  

While he's a despicable man, it makes sense to me that Trump would admire him.

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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/14/723077179/trump-greets-hungarys-hard-right-leader-in-oval-office

The Hungarian President has a lot in common with Trump.  They have the same agenda.  Trump loves that he's tough.  One difference is the Hungarian President is a lawyer and probably smarter than Trump, and probably doesn't lie on a daily basis, and has done most of his agenda by changing things legally.  

While he's a despicable man, it makes sense to me that Trump would admire him.

And that is why it is appalling that Trump welcomed him to WH, when a Republican and Democrat, kept him out.

 

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While I hold Trump and Friends in very low regard, I am nonetheless still taken aback by just how low Trump is willing to go, on a variety of issues.

Do I think his immoral stances make him tough?

No.

Just immoral.

From today's Washington Post:

Before Trump's Purge At DHS, Top Officials Challenged Plan For Mass Family Arrests

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Trump's potential war with Iran is all John Bolton's doing. But it might also be his undoing.

The Iranian government knows the national security adviser wants a war, and is banking on the fact that the president doesn't.

National security adviser John Bolton has reportedly requested that administration officials draw up plans to send 120,000 U.S. troops to the Middle East to counter Iran, sending shockwaves through Washington. Bolton, a key architect of the disastrous invasion of Iraq, has long gunned for war with Iran and seems intent on escalating tensions regardless of Tehran’s policies.

At first glance, the plans — a deployment on a scale with the force sent to Kuwait prior to the war in Iraq — suggest that Iran’s decision to respond to Donald Trump’s violations of the Iran deal by restarting elements of its nuclear program has backfired spectacularly.

But there is a different interpretation of what has happened. Rather than Iran walking into Bolton’s trap, it is Bolton who is walking into Iran’s trap....

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-potential-war-iran-all-john-bolton-s-doing-ncna1005521

 

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I am listening to the Daily, a NY Times podcast.

They are discussing the China trade war.

More specifically, they are talking to Midwest, soybean farmers.

They voted for Trump.

One said he didn't like what Trump had to say during the campaign, about trade and China.

He still voted for Trump, because he DIDN'T BELIEVE that Trump would do, what he said he would do.

Huh?

I don't understand this line of thinking.

Trump tells you what he will do, but you don't believe him????

I can only shake my head.

 

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4 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

I am listening to the Daily, a NY Times podcast.

They are discussing the China trade war.

More specifically, they are talking to Midwest, soybean farmers.

They voted for Trump.

One said he didn't like what Trump had to say during the campaign, about trade and China.

He still voted for Trump, because he DIDN'T BELIEVE that Trump would do, what he said he would do.

Huh?

I don't understand this line of thinking.

Trump tells you what he will do, but you don't believe him????

I can only shake my head.

 

My perspective on that podcast was somewhat different.

First, there was only one soybean farmer.  He did vote for Trump.  He liked “everything” Trump had to say during the campaign, but had “some concerns” regarding trade.  He did say he thought Trump would listen to advisors and not act quite as drastically as he has.

Did you listen to the truck manufacturer?  He understands that the tariffs aren’t meant to be permanent, and that they are a means to a better deal.  Even if it puts his business at risk in the short term.

 

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

Buying a property from his sister should concern us?

He already owned it. It's a rental property, part of his business. The fact that he has not distanced himself from his business interests should concern those who value ethics, honesty, and the rule of law. IMHO

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6 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

My perspective on that podcast was somewhat different.

First, there was only one soybean farmer.  He did vote for Trump.  He liked “everything” Trump had to say during the campaign, but had “some concerns” regarding trade.  He did say he thought Trump would listen to advisors and not act quite as drastically as he has.

Did you listen to the truck manufacturer?  He understands that the tariffs aren’t meant to be permanent, and that they are a means to a better deal.  Even if it puts his business at risk in the short term.

 

I understand the idea that sometimes we have to sacrifice today for the long term benefits.  What bothers me is that some of the same people aren't willing to look at long term things like how investing in health care today might save future health care dollars, or how investing in saving the environment will have long term benefits.  

About those tariffs not meant to be permanent, Trump is dropping hints they might be here to stay.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/14/us/politics/trump-tariffs-china.html

 As far as not believing what candidates say, sometimes I listen to a candidates speeches and understand they are all talk and probably aren't going to do everything they say.  I remember listening to a speech by Obama on what all he was going to do for teachers and education and thought it was all BS and I think that's what it was.

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