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2 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Here you go:

Section 6301(f)(1) of the US Tax Code stipulates that Treasury will furnish tax returns, as requested in writing by Congressional committee.

House Ways and Means made the request in writing, as required.

Trump, via Treasury is out of compliance, therefore, breaking tax law.

 

 

 

An individual person is not breaking the law if the Treasury does not comply with a request to turn over tax records.

 

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yes.

We know that Russia was very engaged in spying and inserting operatives and money into groups and political processes with the intent of influencing the 2016 election in Trump's favor. Patriots were rightly concerned when they became aware of a plethora of unreported contacts between Russians and members of Trump's campaign staff. That is why there was an investigation and most of us would like to have access to the Mueller report and findings to better understand what was going on and how we protect our democratic processes from foreign interference.

It would be nice to have some understanding of why the Trump team met with and lied about Russian contacts.  Is it simply because they are liars and cannot help themselves or was it because they wanted to conceal something from the voters?

 

36 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

26 U.S. Code § 6103.Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information

 (f)Disclosure to Committees of Congress

 (1)Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation

Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6103 

I notice the rarely used law doesn’t specify a time that the request must be furnished by.  It also stated the information is only to be looked at in a closed session.  Do they plan on keeping whatever they find out a secret?

Anyway, it will be enjoyable to watch yet another bomb blow up in the faces of the Democrats.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

I notice the rarely used law doesn’t specify a time that the request must be furnished by.  It also stated the information is only to be looked at in a closed session.  Do they plan on keeping whatever they find out a secret?

Anyway, it will be enjoyable to watch yet another bomb blow up in the faces of the Democrats.

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TRUMP’S TAX RETURNS: WHAT IS 6103 AND HOW WILL IT BE USED TO GET TRUMP’S RETURNS?

Will the president’s returns be made public? 

Yes, it’s likely the president’s returns would become public, but maybe not in the way you would think.

Neal could review the returns, put the Ways and Means committee into a private session and call for the committee to vote on whether Trump’s tax returns would be submitted to the full House or Senate.

Once that information is given to the full House and/or Senate,  Article 1, Section 6 of the Constitution takes effect. Article 1 contains the "speech or debate" clause. What that clause does is exempt Senate and House members from civil or criminal penalties for "legislative acts" or acts committed as part of their official responsibilities.

One thing that could keep the returns from becoming public is that such information may only be shared with the full House or Senate only if there is a “legitimate legislative purpose” for making the returns public.

https://www.krmg.com/news/national/trump-tax-returns-what-6103-and-how-will-used-get-trump-returns/ySwIPaFbjWrAN2L0nVtkxJ/ 

 

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43 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

 

I notice the rarely used law doesn’t specify a time that the request must be furnished by.  It also stated the information is only to be looked at in a closed session.  Do they plan on keeping whatever they find out a secret?

Anyway, it will be enjoyable to watch yet another bomb blow up in the faces of the Democrats.

 

 

Congressional committees have previously demonstrated ability to maintain secrecy related to confidential or protected. Of course, there were substantial issues with leaks for a defined period of time. 

 Watchdog group files ethics complaint against Nunes after report of House Intel leaks

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4 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

However, there IS a law requiring the president to turn over tax returns to Congress when asked.

Trump is now breaking that law.

Would you provide a source for this claim?

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3 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Here you go:

Section 6301(f)(1) of the US Tax Code stipulates that Treasury will furnish tax returns, as requested in writing by Congressional committee.

House Ways and Means made the request in writing, as required.

Trump, via Treasury is out of compliance, therefore, breaking tax law.

 

 

 

The rest of the section that you refer to.

[…]


…except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.
[…]


26 U.S. Code § 6103. Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information
 

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Another day, another Trump lie.

From today's Washington Post:

Trump, Who Once Said He 'Loved' WikiLeaks, Claims To Know Nothing About The Group

Maybe he isn't lying.

It could be serious cognitive decline that causes him to not recall his previous statements.

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7 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

 

I notice the rarely used law doesn’t specify a time that the request must be furnished by.  It also stated the information is only to be looked at in a closed session.  Do they plan on keeping whatever they find out a secret?

Anyway, it will be enjoyable to watch yet another bomb blow up in the faces of the Democrats.

 

 

No bombs have blown up in Democrats faces.

On the other hand, bombs go off daily in the face of Trump and Republicans.

The latest is Senate Republicans telling DJT to cancel that offer to Herman Cain.

Looks like one sexual predator, isn't going to be able to give his friend a job.

Senate Republicans think it is too toxic.

Wonder why?

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7 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

An individual person is not breaking the law if the Treasury does not comply with a request to turn over tax records.

 

The Trump administration is breaking the law, by not complying with tax law.

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20 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

 

I notice the rarely used law doesn’t specify a time that the request must be furnished by.  It also stated the information is only to be looked at in a closed session.  Do they plan on keeping whatever they find out a secret?

Anyway, it will be enjoyable to watch yet another bomb blow up in the faces of the Democrats.

 

 

I do so love watching bombs blow up in the faces of Republicans.

Illinois is the 18th state to introduce legislation that would require Trump to provide tax returns, in order to get his name on the ballot in 2020.

The bill cleared the Illinois State Senate. It now moves to the House.

Democrats hold majorities in both chambers.

Looks like this piece of legislation has a great chance of passing in Illinois.

Beautiful!

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From today's Washington Post:

Poll Shows Rebound In Trump's Job Approval After Release Of Mueller Report Summary

But before Trumpsters get too excited, the numbers show 45% of Americans approve of the job he is doing, while 51% DO NOT approve.

So, a majority of Americans don't approve of Trump.

Apparently Trump posted a false graphic on Twitter yesterday, showing himself at 55% approval.

But that false narrative was put together by Fox.

 

 

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