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2 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I believe I’m by far the most frequent conservative poster here.  My very last post before this one was calling out his bad behavior.

Perhaps it happens more often then you realize.  It seems you may not always pay attention to it.

Yes, you said his actions around Warmbier were stupid, but that was only one part of his performance at CPAC. What do you make of his continual misstatement of his electoral college win? Whining about the size of his inauguration crowd? And the ridiculous claim that migrant mothers are giving their daughters "massive amounts of birth control pills".? Not to mention mocking Jeff Sessions' accent, and using an explicative to describe a member of Congress. Did you see the odd bit where he pretended that he couldn't watch TV because the wind wasn't blowing? 

https://www.inquisitr.com/5323317/trump-mothers-daughters-massive-amounts-of-birth-control-pills-twitter/

And yet, he signed a lousy tax cut bill ( which wasn't the largest tax cut ever, no matter what he says) and has been appointing the judges he's been told to appoint. At the same time, golfing, promoting his private businesses, and violating security guidelines left and right.

The man is corrupt and dangerous.

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, chare said:

Yes, I do have a specific disagreement.  And no, prior service in the military is not necessarily a requisite for having knowledge of the service.  If you are discussing equipment, the budget, operational matters, deployment, or many of the many similar categories, then no, prior service is not required.  

However, you wrote very specific comment that ex military were “accustomed to living in communities completely controlled by someone else, where they are afforded very few choices in external appearances or conduct.”  This implies some knowledge of a military lifestyle, and I was curious as to what you based this opinion on.  Especially considering that it isn’t reflective of my 20 years in the Marine Corps.
 

Interesting. 

My non military experience of working with military personnel on military bases in Alaska revealed very ordered communities with very specific regulationson what could be in yards, color of curtains in windows, even. Perhaps instead of being combative and rude you could share how your opinion is different.  

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I grew up a military brat and around military communities.  They are indeed told what to wear, follow orders and in certain situations are told how to act and behave.  So I can see why it would be tempting to say military retirees are drawn to communities like the Villages, but it kind of falls flat.

My dad had the freedom to move off base and buy a home, run that home how he saw fit and enjoyed plenty of freedoms and choice, both on and off the base.

Condos and retirement communities, and mobile home parks here have all kinds of rules and regulations, but they all attract all kinds of retirees.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I grew up a military brat and around military communities.  They are indeed told what to wear, follow orders and in certain situations are told how to act and behave.  So I can see why it would be tempting to say military retirees are drawn to communities like the Villages, but it kind of falls flat.

My dad had the freedom to move off base and buy a home, run that home how he saw fit and enjoyed plenty of freedoms and choice, both on and off the base.

Condos and retirement communities, and mobile home parks here have all kinds of rules and regulations, but they all attract all kinds of retirees.

 

 

What's to fall flat?  Seriously, this is a silly non issue.  The majority of the folks living in The Villages are ex military. The Villages offer a very ordered and specific lifestyle.  Why would someone be provoked by my remark? 

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43 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Interesting. 

My non military experience of working with military personnel on military bases in Alaska revealed very ordered communities with very specific regulationson what could be in yards, color of curtains in windows, even. Perhaps instead of being combative and rude you could share how your opinion is different.  

Not my intent to be either combative or rude, and if you took the tone of my post as either, I apologize.   
As for life in the military.  While on duty or in uniform at all times, either on or off duty, all branches of the service have specific rules of conduct and regulations to be followed.  And while some of them might seem overly strict or  somewhat onerous, there are valid reasons when you consider the mission of, and unique requirements of military service.  Off duty, aside from the fact that some areas are more strictly enforced (e.g., drug and alcohol abuse) service members engage in most of the activities enjoyed by their non-military contemporaries.

As to “specific regulations” addressing lawn maintenance and appearance, this can be true.  However, this is no different from the rules and regulations issued by many home owners associations or rental communities; some of which are enforced as vigorously, or more so than those on base.  As far as color of curtains that can be displayed, I’ve never encountered this in regards to family housing.  For single military personal living in the barracks the regulations are somewhat more strict, but in 8 years of barracks living while on active duty I never encountered any that I found particularly unreasonable.

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21 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

What's to fall flat?  Seriously, this is a silly non issue.  The majority of the folks living in The Villages are ex military. The Villages offer a very ordered and specific lifestyle.  Why would someone be provoked by my remark? 

As has be posted here many times, tone and intent are sometimes difficult to determine from a written statement.  Just as my post came across as “combative and rude," which was not my intent, your post came across as I’ll informed and condescending.  Which after  reading your response to my post, I see was not your intent. 

Strikes colors and withdraws from field of battle.
 

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57 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

 

I really don’t know much about the CPAC speech.  Did you watch it, or just the CNN analysis?

I’ve mentioned things before I thought he was wrong about.  I guess I don’t understand what you want?  Are we short of Trump critics here?  Suppose I criticize him every time you think he deserves it, so what?  Where does that get us?  

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2 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I really don’t know much about the CPAC speech.  Did you watch it, or just the CNN analysis?

I’ve mentioned things before I thought he was wrong about.  I guess I don’t understand what you want?  Are we short of Trump critics here?  Suppose I criticize him every time you think he deserves it, so what?  Where does that get us?  

I think that some of what you are feeling is a sense is frustration that you are unable to see this man for what he is. It's not so much that you should criticize him every time that we think he deserves it but that you might pay closer attention and discover that this is a dangerously abnormal presidency. What you believe is nothing but partisan hate is actually genuine alarm and concern for our republic. 

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6 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I really don’t know much about the CPAC speech.  Did you watch it, or just the CNN analysis?

I’ve mentioned things before I thought he was wrong about.  I guess I don’t understand what you want?  Are we short of Trump critics here?  Suppose I criticize him every time you think he deserves it, so what?  Where does that get us?  

I don't criticize him every time I think he deserves it, that would be several times a day.  At this point we all are so used to him we tend to criticize him when he gets particularly offense.  

I will give you this that you do criticize the man, but mostly when provoked or asked by us.  Then you say "oh yeah, that was not right".  You rarely spontaneously criticize him.

But where would that get us?

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6 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I really don’t know much about the CPAC speech.  Did you watch it, or just the CNN analysis?

I’ve mentioned things before I thought he was wrong about.  I guess I don’t understand what you want?  Are we short of Trump critics here?  Suppose I criticize him every time you think he deserves it, so what?  Where does that get us?  

Even people that were there didn't listen to the 2 hour rambling, so yeah most of us just read some analysis.  Did you only get the Fox News analysis?  If so, then of course you would find nothing to criticize.  

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7 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

What's to fall flat?  Seriously, this is a silly non issue.  The majority of the folks living in The Villages are ex military. The Villages offer a very ordered and specific lifestyle.  Why would someone be provoked by my remark? 

I guess it's all in individual interpretation.  I read about a community that wasn't "ordered and specific" (other than being full of retirees) but one that is vibrant and full of all kinds of activities (including swingers)

Perhaps them having a lot of military retirees is one part of the reason they are Trump country.  But you also have to consider demographics that they are 98.8% white, median age of 70, mostly heterosexual and married, probably zero percent Hispanic, etc., very low poverty rate.  Interesting thing is that they aren't overly religious, I saw one demographic that 35% of them are religious which I think is close to the Florida average.   Demographics unlike the rest of Florida otherwise.  Nothing wrong with that perhaps as like people tend to congregate together, but they are they have all the demographics that make up Trump Country.  

 

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43 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Even people that were there didn't listen to the 2 hour rambling, so yeah most of us just read some analysis.  Did you only get the Fox News analysis?  If so, then of course you would find nothing to criticize.  

Who could possibly bear to listen to two hours of incoherent rambling?

At least when Castro pontificated for hours, he was coherent!

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