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Honest mistake and you're owning up to it. No big deal.

Perhaps like what they uncovered for Clinton, it's not worth investigating.

My main objection to this story is that she had to have known better. She had to have known since Clinton emails was a big reason Clinton was defeated that she herself wasn't free to do the exact same thing.

It's kind of like a thief that steals a color TV from Walmart and one that steals a bag of apples because he's hungry. Both are still thieves.

People can't chant "lock her up" and then give Ivanka Trump a pass.

Yes, when I thought it was Melania I was inclined to believe it was that she didn't know better. I don't buy that for Ivanka. I'm sure she thinks some rules don't apply to her.

Still, imho it's not nearly the same as Clinton's email scandal. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

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Still, imho it's not nearly the same as Clinton's email scandal. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

How do you know this? Are you privy to what she was doing?

But yes, I might agree with you here, but like I said stealing a bag of apples might not be as bad as stealing a TV, but a thief is a thief even though one sentence might be lighter than the other. The "lock her up" crowd needs to stop saying "it's not as bad as Clinton" and call it what it is and hold her accountable.

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How do you know this? Are you privy to what she was doing?

But yes, I might agree with you here, but like I said stealing a bag of apples might not be as bad as stealing a TV, but a thief is a thief even though one sentence might be lighter than the other. The "lock her up" crowd needs to stop saying "it's not as bad as Clinton" and call it what it is and hold her accountable.

Earlier I said unless more comes out about this, then it's a "who cares" scenario. I have the same info you and everyone else does. It sounds like it was a few hundred emails, which means probably not for a extended period of time. I don't believe Ivanka would have the same info and contacts that Hilary did. I haven't heard of Ivanka having her own server.

I agree, a "thief is a thief", although they face a variety of consequences based on what and how they stole.

If someone crosses into Mexico or the US illegally, is a "criminal a criminal"?

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Earlier I said unless more comes out about this, then it's a "who cares" scenario. I have the same info you and everyone else does. It sounds like it was a few hundred emails, which means probably not for a extended period of time. I don't believe Ivanka would have the same info and contacts that Hilary did. I haven't heard of Ivanka having her own server.

I agree, a "thief is a thief", although they face a variety of consequences based on what and how they stole.

If someone crosses into Mexico or the US illegally, is a "criminal a criminal"?

Obviously, as I've said the potential for damage, if any, is not there like with Ms. Clinton. I've already agreed on that point. I guess where we diverge is because what she did wasn't as bad as Clinton, it's easier for you to blow it off and deflect back to Clinton.

Let's agree that we've both said our piece about that topic and not discuss it further.

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If someone crosses into Mexico or the US illegally, is a "criminal a criminal"?

Not sure why you are throwing this comment into a discussion about Ivanka Trump's emails, but okay.

Crossing the border illegally is a crime so it makes the person a criminal. Duh

Don't buy into the idea that liberals want an open border. Obama deported more people than any other president. This shows that progressives aren't keen to the idea of an open border. However, we do have some compassion for those that have been here for decades contributing to society and raised American born children, and for their foreign born children that had no say so in the parents illegal entry decades prior.

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Not sure why you are throwing this comment into a discussion about Ivanka Trump's emails, but okay.

Crossing the border illegally is a crime so it makes the person a criminal. Duh

Don't buy into the idea that liberals want an open border. Obama deported more people than any other president. This shows that progressives aren't keen to the idea of an open border. However, we do have some compassion for those that have been here for decades contributing to society and raised American born children, and for their foreign born children that had no say so in the parents illegal entry decades prior.

Just assessing your consistency. Not everyone here is. It would appear then that there are far more then 500 criminals in the caravan as many of them crossed into Mexico illegally, but that's another thread and not directed at you personally.

The "Obama deported more then any other president" myth has been debunked for awhile now. Democrats in power want porous borders.

FACT CHECK: Were More People Deported Under the Obama Administration Than Any Other?

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Democrats in power want porous borders.

Please provide some documentation, apart from the conspiracy theories of the far right, that this is true. You all (on the right) keep saying this, but I don't know anyone who is in favor of "porous borders." When people on the right say this, what they appear to mean is that Democrats aren't as vicious and vengeful about immigrants from other countries as y'all are, not that anyone actually "want(s) porous borders,"

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Please provide some documentation, apart from the conspiracy theories of the far right, that this is true. You all (on the right) keep saying this, but I don't know anyone who is in favor of "porous borders." When people on the right say this, what they appear to mean is that Democrats aren't as vicious and vengeful about immigrants from other countries as y'all are, not that anyone actually "want(s) porous borders,"

Calls for open borders wind up closing doors for Democrats

Democrats on the far left appear to be taking their rhetoric against border security, including calls for the abolishment of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, one step too far. Over the past two months, Democratic National Committee deputy chairman and congressman Keith Ellison has passionately and persistently advocated his position that national borders, specifically the southern border, create "an injustice."

In a recent interview, Ellison suggested that because corporations "can go back and forth across the border seeking out the lowest wages," regular people should be able to "go back and forth across the border seeking out the highest wages." Not only is this statement in itself completely detached from reality, but it seems to suggest that if we cannot have wide open borders, then we must not have free trade at all. These remarks come just weeks after Ellison wore a shirt that read "yo no creo en fronteras," which in English translates into "I do not believe in borders."

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Please provide some documentation, apart from the conspiracy theories of the far right, that this is true. You all (on the right) keep saying this, but I don't know anyone who is in favor of "porous borders." When people on the right say this, what they appear to mean is that Democrats aren't as vicious and vengeful about immigrants from other countries as y'all are, not that anyone actually "want(s) porous borders,"

To start with, I've seen the deputy chair of the DNC wears a t-shirt that says he doesn't believe in borders, and Oscasio-Cortez is joined by others in saying ICE should be abolished.

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So, a Tshirt is the same as a political platform and agenda because an opinion piece implies as much? Clearly the concern of this opinion, for how Democrats might suffer from their views on immigration, didn't come to fruition in the election (the opinion was published in July). I wonder what else is wrong within that opinion.

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