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28 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

Well, I’ve been to conservative rallies where I haven’t heard any of the above mentioned chants.  

 

Evidence clearly demonstrates that chanting of this nature has become a staple of Trump rallies since the election in 2016. 

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Isn't there a specific psychology surrounding the use of chants and certain ritual to enhance the experience of unity in ĺarge groups?

Like in Triumph Of The Will?

The Nazi propaganda film, that was shot so beautifully.

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1 hour ago, nursej22 said:

I've been to a few democracy rallies, and can't say I've heard either of these. A chant I have heard are "this is what democracy looks like" . And at a March for Our Lives:  "What do we want? Change. And when do we want it? Now."

And I apologize for the "Seig Heil" comment. That was evoking Godwin's law. 

The rallies I have been to include the following chants:

Tell me what Democracy looks like!

This is what Democracy looks like!

What do we want?

Change.

When do we want it?

Now.

 

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

Well, I’ve been to conservative rallies where I haven’t heard any of the above mentioned chants.  

 

You've been to conservative rallies and never heard "this is what Democracy looks like!" or "what do want?..when do we want it...."   doesn't surprise me, but were you meaning to quote her other post?

I was expecting a tit for tat "but your side does it too" kind of post.

But we can go tit for tat all day and come up with what someone has chanted at a liberal march and what someone has chanted at a Trump rally.  

Let's talk about signs and t-shirts.  I saw a t-shirt from a Trump rally "f-your feelings".  I saw a sign at a women's march "my p***y is not your property".  

tit for tat...you're turn.

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I wasn't familiar with the movie, here's the Wikipedia description. 

TRIUMPH OF THE WILL

The movie is available on YouTube as well as shorter excerpts. 

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2 hours ago, nursej22 said:

Don't forget Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil, and Jews Will Not Replace Us. 

I've never heard those.  I'm not really talking about isolated chants, or vulgar chants by a few, but large scale massive chants like "lock her up".  They aren't vulgar, aren't even wrong, but seem just a bit off.   

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Just now, Tweety said:

I've never heard those.  I'm not really talking about isolated chants, or vulgar chants by a few, but large scale massive chants like "lock her up".  They aren't vulgar, aren't even wrong, but seem just a bit off.   

I do think it is wrong to allow, even encourage, chants about jailing political opponents during political rallies. That concept is completely incongruent with our rule of law and constitutional rights. 

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16 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I do think it is wrong to allow, even encourage, chants about jailing political opponents during political rallies. That concept is completely incongruent with our rule of law and constitutional rights

Do you consider claims made at an event sponsored by Move On, by a sitting member of the House of Representative that “…we're gonna go in there and we're going to impeach the motherf****r…” incongruent with our rule of law and constitutional rights as well?


New House Democrat Rashida Tlaib: 'We're gonna impeach the motherf****r'
 

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1 minute ago, chare said:

Do you consider claims made at an event sponsored by Move On, by a sitting member of the House of Representative that “…we're gonna go in there and we're going to impeach the motherf****r…” incongruent with our rule of law and constitutional rights as well?
New House Democrat Rashida Tlaib: 'We're gonna impeach the motherf****r'
 

Impeachment is a valid political tool within our constitutional congressional powers. Use of profanity is not uncommon among Americans and it is increasingly evident in all manner of political discourse. Did she lead a chant of the assembled event goers?

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6 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Impeachment is a valid political tool within our constitutional congressional powers. Use of profanity is not uncommon among Americans and it is increasingly evident in all manner of political discourse. Did she lead a chant of the assembled event goers?

I think use of profanity at a political level is very unprofessional, kind of like Trump's grade school bullying "pencil neck" or "Pocahontas" and it really doesn't have a place in political discourse at that high of a level from congresspeople.  Even as a nurse, I can't use that kind of profanity at work and get away with it.  There's a time and place.

Just my opinion.

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7 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I think use of profanity at a political level is very unprofessional, kind of like Trump's grade school bullying "pencil neck" or "Pocahontas" and it really doesn't have a place in political discourse at that high of a level from congresspeople.  Even as a nurse, I can't use that kind of profanity at work and get away with it.  There's a time and place.

Just my opinion.

I would agree with that. It seems, however that those norms have already been collapsed and a new standard for acceptance of public profanity from political leaders has been established. 

I thought the question wasn't the words spoken by a politician  (no matter the wisdom or vulgarity) but more about ritual chanting of the crowd at political rallies, particularly the chants advocating or demanding unconstitutional actions or imprisonment of political enemies.  In the example given the statement didn't encourage something that is unconstitutional or outside of the rule of law and it wasn't chanted by the crowd. It was offensive because of vulgar language that iconsider inapprpriate in public settings. Impeachment is a valid political tool. 

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56 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I wasn't familiar with the movie, here's the Wikipedia description. 

TRIUMPH OF THE WILL

The movie is available on YouTube as well as shorter excerpts. 

Oh, we studied propaganda films such as Triumph of the Will and Olympiad in college under Mass Communication.

They are very famous.

Nazi propaganda. Top-notch.

Famous female, German filmmaker. Claimed she wasn't a Nazi, but Hitler loved her work.

Easy to understand why.

 

 

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