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3 minutes ago, chare said:

The way some, but not all, Latino cultures do.  And I'm not surprised that some, or many, Anglos are unfamiliar with this practice.  I was reared in South Texas and went to school with a large number of Hispanic students, and this naming convention.  Years later, while I was on active duty I served with a Marine of Puerto Rican descent.  She explainednthis to me, and further stated that there was some variation in practice, even among those of the same ethnic background.

Ignoring it doesn't necessarily means she's racist, just uneducated.  Making fun of the custom?  Possibly racist.  I don't closely follow Ms. Ingraham as I've always thought her to be an idiot so can't say so for sure.  

Actually, in the snip of video I saw it was Mr. diGenova that made the "Latina thing" comment, not Ms. Ingraham

I was married to a Latino man, so I have known about this custom since 1994.

Again, I feel pretty safe calling Ingraham a racist, as I heard her rants, albeit, in patient rooms, tuned to Fox, and in other media.

I do not seek her out, nor do I watch Fox.

I think most of us understand the purpose Ingraham serves on Fox.

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2 hours ago, chare said:

Is this a general comment? 

Yes. I certainly didn't make it personal or narrow and intended for it to be general observation. Do you have thoughts about my assessment?

I worked with the Hispanic immigrant community and that naming convention was very common. I am not certain, however, that  unfamiliarity with the practice excuses intentional mocking of someone's ethnic name. To be fair, Ingraham's guest was the one who actually mocked AOC and she just agreed - IMHO.

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29 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yes. I certainly didn't make it personal or narrow and intended for it to be general observation. Do you have thoughts about my assessment?

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Thank you.  Yes, I do.  However, considering your clarification I'll keep them to myself.

30 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

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I worked with the Hispanic immigrant community and that naming convention was very common...

This naming convention isn't universal.  As I mentioned in my edited post, it was uncommon in south Texas where I grew up.  Where I currently live there is a large Hispanic immigrant community and it is quite common. 

31 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

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...I am not certain, however, that  unfamiliarity with the practice excuses intentional mocking of someone's ethnic name. To be fair, Ingraham's guest was the one who actually mocked AOC and she just agreed - IMHO.

Again, I agree with this.  There is no excuse for mocking anyone's name.  As I previously mentioned I don't follow Ms. Ingraham.  If she does this only with Hispanics, then yes, this is indeed an ethnic slur.  On the other hand, if this is how she treats everyone with whom she disagrees, then that is just a gross lack of common courtesy.

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2 hours ago, chare said:

Thank you.  Yes, I do.  However, considering your clarification I'll keep them to myself.

This naming convention isn't universal.  As I mentioned in my edited post, it was uncommon in south Texas where I grew up.  Where I currently live there is a large Hispanic immigrant community and it is quite common. 

Again, I agree with this.  There is no excuse for mocking anyone's name.  As I previously mentioned I don't follow Ms. Ingraham.  If she does this only with Hispanics, then yes, this is indeed an ethnic slur.  On the other hand, if this is how she treats everyone with whom she disagrees, then that is just a gross lack of common courtesy.

I am also not a follower of Laura Ingraham but I am familiar with her program content. She is a casual bigot, IMV.  A white woman who often seems oblivious to her bigotry. I don't think that she considers at all that mocking a Latina name with her guest is racist, I think her only thought was to mock the liberal. 

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9 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I am also not a follower of Laura Ingraham but I am familiar with her program content. She is a casual bigot, IMV.  A white woman who often seems oblivious to her bigotry. I don't think that she considers at all that mocking a Latina name with her guest is racist, I think her only thought was to mock the liberal. 

I agree.  It would be one thing to mock the liberal by attacking her stance and her initiatives, but adding in "the Latina thing" and given her past comments shows an underlying racism and bigotry.  

She's made comments about "demographic changes" making America not feel like America anymore...underlying meaning is she doesn't like racial diversity that is happening.

She's mocked Rep. Ilhan Omar accent  "sounds like Rizzo from Grease." and continued to do an impression.  What does this have to do with politics.  

Even her gay brother says she's racist.  

Given the one comment one would think it's a dumb comment that wasn't necessary, but added to her long line of insults, one can only conclude what her true colors reveal.

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17 hours ago, chare said:

Actually, in the snip of video I saw it was Mr. diGenova that made the "Latina thing" comment, not Ms. Ingraham.

 

She edged him on by asking him about how she pronounces her name.  But yes he did say "she's doing the Latina Thing" not her.  But why even bring the subject up?  

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6 hours ago, Tweety said:

She edged him on by asking him about how she pronounces her name.  But yes he did say "she's doing the Latina Thing" not her.  But why even bring the subject up?  

I think we know why Ingraham brought up the topic.

Again, with her past rants on "the caravan," and other topics that touch immigration, nobody is going out on ledge when they call her a racist.

Her guest was obviously racist.

The Latina thing comment is flat-out racist.

To call it impolite, is to give cover, to what it really is.

No, Steve King isn't merely being impolite when he makes excuses for White Nationalists.

 

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20 hours ago, chare said:

Thank you.  Yes, I do.  However, considering your clarification I'll keep them to myself.

This naming convention isn't universal.  As I mentioned in my edited post, it was uncommon in south Texas where I grew up.  Where I currently live there is a large Hispanic immigrant community and it is quite common. 

Again, I agree with this.  There is no excuse for mocking anyone's name.  As I previously mentioned I don't follow Ms. Ingraham.  If she does this only with Hispanics, then yes, this is indeed an ethnic slur.  On the other hand, if this is how she treats everyone with whom she disagrees, then that is just a gross lack of common courtesy.

If Ingraham and her guest wish to debate the policy suggestions of AOC, that is indeed relevant.

But mocking her last name, and it's pronunciation, has no place in the discussion.

It isn't simply bad manners. 

It is racist. It is an action meant to demean, and play up to Fox viewers sensibilities of the "other."

Does anyone on this thread believe that Fox gives prime time spot, and lots of compensation, to a person who is simply that dumb?

I know I don't.

Fox, and Ingraham, know exactly what they are doing.

And it is far more than a simple lack of good manners.

Edited by Lil Nel

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Outside the hotel ahead of the event were at least 1,000 people protesting, creating a sea of American and Israeli flags along Canoga Avenue and picket signs with messages the likes of of “Your hate makes us stronger,” on Omar’s face covered by a swastika.

https://www.dailynews.com/2019/03/24/greeted-by-protests-rep-ilhan-omar-tells-la-area-muslims-to-raise-hell-in-face-of-human-rights-violations/

I think America's blind faith of Israel and their atrocities and the billions we give them needs to stop.  Unfortunately no one will step up, especially when it's Trump that supports them and others in congress want the Jewish vote.

But when that one that steps up is a Muslim dark skinned female...forget about it.  

I support her and the idea that the Israeli lobby in Washington is all rich and powerful and that's not an anti-semitic and hateful statement.  

I pretty much agree with the idea that given the level of intense reaction against her, it's not so much that people all of sudden have great love for Israel, but it's Islamaphobia.  

I was glad to see a faction of Jewish people there to support her.

All of the above is my opinion.

https://www.dailynews.com/2019/03/24/greeted-by-protests-rep-ilhan-omar-tells-la-area-muslims-to-raise-hell-in-face-of-human-rights-violations/

Edited by Tweety

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I've asked the title of the thread be changed to the "Congressional Thread" so as to expand beyond AOC but congress in general.  

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3 hours ago, Tweety said:

https://www.dailynews.com/2019/03/24/greeted-by-protests-rep-ilhan-omar-tells-la-area-muslims-to-raise-hell-in-face-of-human-rights-violations/

I think America's blind faith of Israel and their atrocities and the billions we give them needs to stop.  Unfortunately no one will step up, especially when it's Trump that supports them and others in congress want the Jewish vote.

But when that one that steps up is a Muslim dark skinned female...forget about it.  

I support her and the idea that the Israeli lobby in Washington is all rich and powerful and that's not an anti-semitic and hateful statement.  

I pretty much agree with the idea that given the level of intense reaction against her, it's not so much that people all of sudden have great love for Israel, but it's Islamaphobia.  

I was glad to see a faction of Jewish people there to support her.

All of the above is my opinion.

https://www.dailynews.com/2019/03/24/greeted-by-protests-rep-ilhan-omar-tells-la-area-muslims-to-raise-hell-in-face-of-human-rights-violations/

Thank you. 

I felt very alone in perceiving the anti-Islamic tenor of the attacks. 

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3 hours ago, Tweety said:

I've asked the title of the thread be changed to the "Congressional Thread" so as to expand beyond AOC but congress in general.  

We could start another thread. There certainly is lots to discuss and highlight.

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