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3 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Interesting perspective from a anti-Trumpster:

“CNN's Fareed Zakaria said during his most recent broadcast of "Fareed Zakaria GPS" that President Donald Trump is right when it comes to the problems that the United States is facing with asylum abuse.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/49131/cnns-fareed-zakaria-makes-surprising-comments-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

That journalist also thought Trump looked presidential when he ineffectively tossed expensive bombs at an empty runway. His opinion seems a bit shaky if that was an example of appearing presidential.  Frankly, I imagine that Trump gets things right occasionally, even a broken clock is right twice a day.  

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8 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Interesting perspective from a anti-Trumpster:

“CNN's Fareed Zakaria said during his most recent broadcast of "Fareed Zakaria GPS" that President Donald Trump is right when it comes to the problems that the United States is facing with asylum abuse.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/49131/cnns-fareed-zakaria-makes-surprising-comments-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

I agree with Fareed, and actually I think at it's core a lot of people not just on the right do as well, there's been talk about better clarifying refugee status as only including those fleeing recognized refugee situations.  Unfortunately Trump has a particular knack for encouraging disagreement where there would otherwise be common ground.

Separate from that, I do agree with the administration's contention that the vast majority of these asylum seekers have already obtained asylum up entering Mexico, and no longer have a valid asylum claim at our border.  

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Democracy Now! is a very far left viewer supported news station. You can watch or read the transcript.

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Ousted Honduran President Zelaya: U.S.-Backed Coup Destabilized My Nation Forcing Migrants to Flee

A conversation with former Honduran President Manuel Zelaya, who was ousted in a U.S.-backed coup in 2009. Zelaya reflects on that coup, what has happened to Honduran politics since then, and the migration crisis that has seen hundreds of thousands of Central Americans flee to the U.S...

...   JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, June 28th marked the 10th anniversary since Honduran soldiers stormed into the residency of democratically elected President Manuel Zelaya and forced him onto a plane to Costa Rica, ousting him from Honduras just six months before the end of his term. Since the coup, which was plotted by the Honduran military, business and political elite, and which was supported by the Obama administration, tens of thousands of Hondurans have been murdered, including more than 300 LGBTQ people, 60 journalists and hundreds of campesino rights leaders and environmental and land protectors. One of the most devastating blows to environmentalists in the country was the brutal killing of Lenca environmental activist and winner of the prestigious 2015 Goldman Environmental Prize, Berta Cáceres, who was shot to death in her bedroom three years ago by Honduran military intelligence specialists with links to the country’s U.S.–trained special forces.

AMY GOODMAN: As both extreme poverty and violence skyrocketed in the last 10 years, in recent years, under the presidency of Juan Orlando Hernández, tens of thousands of refugees have fled Honduras in caravans with the hope of political asylum in the United States. Many argue this is a humanitarian crisis caused by U.S. intervention in Honduras, as well as the U.S. government’s unconditional support for Hernández. Many challenged the fairness of his re-election in 2017...

...   MANUEL ZELAYA: [translated] Very well. Greetings, Amy. And greetings to Democracy Now! Democracy Now! has covered the events in Honduras very objectively, in an exemplary manner, for the last 10 years, when we began to have direct contact...

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/3/manuel_zelaya_reflects_on_the_coup

 

 

 

 

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UN Human Rights Chief on detention camp conditions

It's pretty bad when the guy who evangelicals believe is doing their God's work is overseeing the dehumanization and cruel treatment of people who are seeking better lives.  The UN Chief is "apalled". It's pretty bad when international human rights advocates call out the unacceptable and intentional mistreatment while our hyper religious Christian vice-president ignores it, changes the subject, deflects, projects, and outright lies on national television to avoid confronting the evidence of the plan and practice. He represents the face of the American political Christian male to millions of people around the globe and especially in conservative America.  

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14 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It's pretty bad when the guy who evangelicals believe is doing their God's work is overseeing the dehumanization and cruel treatment of people who are seeking better lives.

Well, at least it’s being acknowledged these people are for the most part aren’t legitimately seeking asylum.

They're simply seeking better lives.

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3 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Well, at least it’s being acknowledged these people are for the most part aren’t legitimately seeking asylum.

They're simply seeking better lives.

Oh well that's OK then. If they're only looking for a better life then it is all right to torture, maltreat and dehumanise them.

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3 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Well, at least it’s being acknowledged these people are for the most part aren’t legitimately seeking asylum.

They're simply seeking better lives.

I am glad that someone else pointed out the obvious, that the treatment they receive reflects on your values not the crimes which you believe justify the treatment. It is telling that the prolife christians aren't protesting this intentional cruelty, they're too busy rationalizing it. 

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Contempt Within CBP Reinforced by Trump

A compelling opinion from the editorial board of the WaPo. 

"What will remain, however, are urgent questions about the Border Patrol, and the degree to which the agency’s failings of culture exacerbated a shocking humanitarian crisis on the southwest frontier. If crisis exposes character, then the agency manning the front lines of America’s border with Mexico needs to take a hard look at its own shortcomings — not only of resources but also of professionalism."

 

This reflects Trump's character. 

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Why So Many Christians Want to Go On Mission Trips to Help Kids But Don’t Want Them Here

An opinion from a spiritual, mission focused perspective.

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Tell me this: Why does that choice they’ve made to come offend us? Because we’re all so committed to following every law? Seeking asylum is legal in our country. We have a history of desperate people escaping to our country. My ancestors did. Did yours?

 

I’m a Jesus follower. I have no argument for someone who believes that we should not share our resources with children who would otherwise be raped or burned alive in their homes, because “Why should our tax dollars have to go to them?” When I say “I have no argument” I mean we have no values in common from which I can argue. I can argue basic humanity and minimum requirements of mercy, but so far those have fallen on deaf ears. If the 10 cents or two dollars that would come out of your taxes are more important to you than a starving child’s life, and you truly believe this child deserves to sleep on a cement floor in worse conditions that we keep our convicted felons because “her parents broke the law,” then I have no hope of convincing you. We understand the world and our responsibilities in it differently.

 

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Registered nurses with the Registered Nurse Response Network (RNRN) have been providing critical medical aid for asylum seekers in Tucson, Arizona since February. RNRN, a disaster-relief project of the California Nurses Foundation (CNF) and National Nurses United (NNU), is working with Casa Alitas, a shelter operated by Catholic Community Services of Southern Arizona as an unprecedented number of migrant families are released from federal detention.

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