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You are reading page 8 of Thank you Planned Parenthood!. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

And here I thought Libertarians were pro-choice. Of course, isn't he running for re-election?

Of course, if the analysis is correct that reproductive freedom is more about property rights than anything else, it makes a sick sort of sense.

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And here I thought Libertarians were pro-choice. Of course, isn't he running for re-election?

Of course, if the analysis is correct that reproductive freedom is more about property rights than anything else, it makes a sick sort of sense.

Someone corrected me on this in an earlier, unrelated thread. Rand Paul is a Republican, not a Libertarian like his father.

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Someone corrected me on this in an earlier, unrelated thread. Rand Paul is a Republican, not a Libertarian like his father.

Thanks, that explains it, then. It's pretty well known how Republicans feel about property vs. human rights. Still sick, though.

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=> Margaret Sanger hated black people, large families. Murdering children is not family planning. By the way, if you watch the entire video, Mike catches Sanger in a number of lies.

Planned Parenthood Caught Engaging in $28 Million in Medicaid Fraud Loses Bid to Stop Lawsuit | LifeNews.com - just the tip of the iceberg.

Planned Parenthood Did Two Abortions on 13-Year-Old Rape Victim, Never Reported Abuse | LifeNews.com goes on more than reported.

Dispels the 3% myth; Planned Parenthood is in the business of aborting (killing in the most cruel means) unborn children.

Planned Parenthood Workers Admit: We Lied to Women About the Development of Their Babies | LifeNews.com -- and we don't expect Planned Parenthood to tell the truth especially in the areas of science which shows life starts at conception.

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Added By the way, if you watch the entire video, Mike catches Sanger in a number of lies.

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- Margaret Sanger believed in black genocide; Planned Parenthood isn't about family planning.

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Our cells are alive too, until they are removed from the body.

Human development begins when a zygote is formed...it is as alive as any other group of cells functioning together. Let's assume for a moment that this zygote represents the fullness of human life (without autonomy or consciousness).

I find it interesting that nursing is a science, and rather than going on proven scientific evidence that human life starts at conception, people who should know better due to education will pull stuff out of thin air.

I know people whose faith teaches that the soul enters the body with the first breath.

They believe a fetus is a potential person.

'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”-- Genesis 2:7

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It's medical / nursing science that human life starts at conception. It's not a matter of faith or religion; it's scientific fact.

Planned Parenthood's business model is just about abortion - making money from killing innocent unborn human babies.

Former Planned Parenthood workers: We coerced women into getting abortions

Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinic Sends Its 6th Botched Abortion Victim to the ER | LifeNews.com

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

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In this post I am not posting links. Anyone who want to can easily verify my facts.

My opinion is based on faith, thus cannot be proven scientifically.

There are several definitions of life. One defines life as the condition the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death. I believe that by that definition life begins at conception.

By that definition the seed of a plant is a potential life because specific conditions muse occur before that seed can grow and function. I think the same can be for the eggs of egg laying animals.

A different definition is that life is the period between the birth and death of a living thing. Clearly that does not include the unborn.

The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology (ACOG) states that the question of when life begins is philosophical, not scientific.

I believe human life begins at conception. My belief once caused me to think abortion should remain illegal. Due to seeing and knowing about too many women and girls dying as the result of self or illegal abortions I no longer think abortion can be prevented by making it illegal.

I now think age appropriate factual education regarding human procreation is important. My mother and one grandmother did this for their girls and boys. We learned about love and commitment to those we loved. We learned about abstinence, condoms (rubbers), and the diaphragm. (This was before birth control pills)

I believe all need to be educated on birth control and have access to it. I believe that can prevent unwanted pregnancies.

I also think no one should consider abortion because she cannot afford to have a baby. I think that the needs of pregnant women should be met, including prenatal healthcare, delivery of the baby, and decent living conditions and nutrition. I think for thos who need it support to meet all children's needs is important.

I have actively helped two women choose to have their babies.

Why do some of the very same people who ask the public to agree that science proves human life begins at conception insist on denying the consensus of most scientists regarding human activity contributing to global warming?

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Anyone who swats a fly, takes or administers antibiotics, or butchers an animal for meat is killing a living being.

Yes some textbooks state life begins with fertilization:

Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception (See how easy it is to provide a source)

 

Belief in the human soul is matter of faith, not science.

There are MANY beliefs regarding the soul.

'At the moment of conception, when the sperm and ovum unite, there is a flash of light in the astral world. Souls there that are ready to be reborn, if their vibration matches that of the flash of light, rush to get in. Sometimes two or more get in at the same time, and the woman has twins, triplets, or even – well!

 

'It is important, therefore, to come together physically with an uplifted consciousness. That flash generated in the astral world reflects the couple's state of consciousness, especially as they felt during the moment of physical union.”---Paramhansa Yogananda

When Does Life Begin?By Dr Peter Kraus, a Christian gynecologist & obstetrician

When Does Life Begin?

According to the Bible, the soul never enters the body. Likewise, the soul never leaves the body.

It is the breath of God, or life-giving spirit, force, principle, or whatever that enters and leaves the body. The soul is the RESULT of the combination of body and breath. When the combination is broken (death), the soul ceases to exist until recreated at the resurrection.

(From notes I took in a Protestant Christian Sunday school decades ago)

Soul Attachment: How Many Souls Live in Your Body?

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"The time of quickening is when the mother feels the life of her unborn infant.

President Brigham Young has left us this explanation of the time when the spirit enters the body: 'When the spirit leaves them [mortal bodies] they are lifeless; and when the mother feels life come to her infant, it is the spirit entering the body preparatory to the immortal existence.

But suppose an accident occurs and the spirit has to leave this body prematurely, what then? All that the physician says is—'It is a still birth,' and that is all they know about it; but whether the spirit remains in the body [i.e, in its own body] a minute, an hour, a day, a year, or lives there until the body has reached a good old age, it is certain that the time will come when they will be separated, and the body will return to mother earth, there to sleep upon that mother's bosom. That is all there is about death.' On other occasions, also, President Young taught that we should have hope for the resurrection of stillborn children. 'They are all right,' he said, and nothing in the way of sealings or ordinances need be done for them." (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.2, p.280)

There are basically three periods when a fetus could acquire its spirit:

1) at conception,

2) at "quickening" (the first ~movements of life felt by the mother, usually in the fourth month of pregnancy), or

3) at birth.

Interestingly, each of these three periods ]has had its. supporters among the leaders of the Church.

https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/047-42-46.pdf

While the Talmud does discuss the time of ensoulment–is it when the child is conceived, or at the first trimester, at birth, or, as one opinion has it, when the child first answers 'Amen”?–it dismisses the question as both unanswerable and irrelevant to the abortion question.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-soul-of-a-fetus/

According to the jurists (fuqaha), the soul (ruh) enters the foetus at around 120 days (4 months) from conception.

They have based this duration upon a Qur'anic verse and a Hadith of the beloved of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace). Our belief is that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) explained, both verbally and practically, the contents of the book of Allah. Hence, coming to a correct conclusion cannot be achieved by merely looking at the verse of the Qur'an; rather, it is imperative to see what the beloved of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) has to say about the relevant issue.

http://eshaykh.com/quran-tafsir/when-does-ruh-enter-fetus/

Followers of Jainism believe in non-violent regarding all living beings. This includes animals, insects, and plants.

http://www.religionfacts.com/jainism

http://www.copiosa.org/body/soul_human.htm

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