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You are reading page 7 of Thank you Planned Parenthood!. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

Interesting to watch and includes (former) pro-choice Kathy Ireland sharing a discussion with Planned Parenthood, and explains why medical science showed her human life starts at conception:

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Fine.

People are allowed their personal opinions.

People who don't approve of abortion should not have one and should avoid putting others in the position to consider one.

They may believe that "life" begins or a soul enters the body whenever they prefer. We can even talk about that.

Abortion is legal in the USA.

Many people are not of the opinion that a nonviable fetus is a human with the same rights as a born human. Women who do not believe that a fetus has a soul, or is afforded the same rights as herself may elect to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. They are not obligated to consider any unrelated person's thoughts on the matter.

Planned Parenthood does a great deal of good. Doesn't it bother you that when PP clinics are shut down that poor women many times go without adequate health care in those communities?

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Abortion is legal in the USA.

It was legal during Hitler's time frame to experiment on Jews, to main them, rob from them, and murder them. Legal doesn't mean moral or ethical.

I do realize some people avoid the science of life starting at conception and go by their religion or other belief systems; that doesn't remove the science of it.

There are many options to Planned Parenthood whose main business model is abortion... and then you have the lies from Planned Parenthood such as with Planned Parenthood Workers Admit: We Lied to Women About the Development of Their Babies | LifeNews.com

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And we have Godwin's law.

By the way, are you aware that not every PP does abortions? The one in my county doesn't. But they sure do provide a lot of services that are sorely needed. And I would highly recommend your claim that PP's main business is abortions be better researched.

Edited by Rose_Queen

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I had an abortion before they were legal. I was a stupidly-ignorant girl, unaware of my ignorance. I also had an emotionally effed up childhood.

It has taken years to get to the point of emotional stability where I am now. There were so many negative things said about me way back when, and I soaked it up like a sponge. It was about me, in particular, but it also transferred, in my mind, that was the consensus about babies and children in general.

It was ingrained in me from infancy. I had intractable colic, for which I rec'd paragoric, and later in my childhood I suffered from what my mother referred to as "inconsolable" crying jags, for which I sometimes rec'd paragoric or some cough syrup w/ codeine and an aspirin. Doping me out was the only relief they or I could get. So 'taking good care of myself' was not in my psyche.

Thus I was emotionally unstable when I got pregnant. I did realize that the child *I* was would not be a desirable parent; I didn't want to fail a child as I had been failed. I "just knew" I'd end up in The Mental Hospital (as we called it) if I 'had to' be pregnant and deliver a real baby.

And because I lived up in my head, the very idea of me being pregnant freaked me out; it would have been traumatic to have to deal with the reality of having a physical body, never mind having a body growing inside that body....mind blowing to the nth degree, as it would have forced me to deal with my issues...more issues than I even knew of at the time. All I know is that, with every fiber of my being I did. not. want. that. child.

Fortunately I had friends who had friends, so they arranged it for me AND pooled their $$ together to pay for it. I ended up going to NYC by bus, having an abortion on the dining room table of a foreign doctor not licensed to practice in the USA. It was essentially a D&C without any anesthesia. I was between 7 and 8 weeks along.

Several years later, PP was where I went, still single, to have my tubes cut, tied, and cauterized. They naturally asked me if I might change my mind later and did I realize that the procedure could not be reversed (at that time, that was so) and even asked me if somebody was 'forcing' me to do this. That was because when they gave me some IV Valium all the nervousness about surgery that I had been suppressing erupted into full-body waves of tremors and uncontrollable shaking/shivering from the inside out, like when I used to get when I had to go to the dentist.

"No, I really want to have my tubes tied. I'm just scared to death because I've never ever had surgery before."

There absolutely needs to be a Planned Parenthood, a safe place where a female can go to address the various needs of their reproductive system.

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It was legal during Hitler's time frame to experiment on Jews, to main them, rob from them, and murder them. Legal doesn't mean moral or ethical.

I do realize some people avoid the science of life starting at conception and go by their religion or other belief systems; that doesn't remove the science of it.

There are many options to Planned Parenthood whose main business model is abortion... and then you have the lies from Planned Parenthood such as with Planned Parenthood Workers Admit: We Lied to Women About the Development of Their Babies | LifeNews.com

Puleeze.

Our cells are alive too, until they are removed from the body.

Human development begins when a zygote is formed...it is as alive as any other group of cells functioning together. Let's assume for a moment that this zygote represents the fullness of human life (without autonomy or consciousness). Why must a woman be forced to carry this development to it's ultimate conclusion? In what ways are men forced to do things against their will in this country? Do the women matter less than the zygote or embryo?

Why is it that folks are so upset by destruction of the products of conception and vow to eliminate that access, but some of those very same folks consider the violent death of living, breathing, eating, talking, humans to be simply an unfortunate side effect of the pursuit of more and more guns?

Nope, I'm not buying it.

Furthermore, the forced pregnancy has been spreading falsehoods, flat out lies, and misrepresentations for decades now...it is just priceless when y'all want to call others liars. Sanctimonious preaching is getting old.

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"There are over eight million stories in The Naked City".

Over-simplified, cookie-cutter judgement tars them all with the same brush, circumstances be damned.

One-Size does not​ fit all.

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Our cells are alive too, until they are removed from the body.

Human development begins when a zygote is formed...it is as alive as any other group of cells functioning together. Let's assume for a moment that this zygote represents the fullness of human life (without autonomy or consciousness).

I find it interesting that nursing is a science, and rather than going on proven scientific evidence that human life starts at conception, people who should know better due to education will pull stuff out of thin air.

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From Wisconsin Christian News

"People who commit crimes against humanity never forget that they have to operate under a shroud of secrecy. So it's no surprise that the abortion lobby is enraged whenever the pro-life community displays graphic images of abortion.

The people who operate abortion clinics should start showing these graphic photos to their customer before they do abortions on them. That way, no woman would ever again submit to an abortion without knowing exactly what she is doing, and those women who might be upset by seeing what an abortion really looks like would still have time to change their minds before having one.

Of course, that is the very reason this idea will never see the light of day. Remember, in the demented world of abortion clinics, nobody makes a nickel until babies are killed. So every woman who has second thoughts and walks out with her baby still alive, is lost profit. And be assured, abortion profiteers do whatever it takes to keep that sort of thing to a minimum."

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Actually, the business of Planned Parenthood is not abortion. Historically it's been family planning. Sanger and her successors were harassed and arrested because they disseminated both information and whatever technology was available to control the size of families.

The "Griswold" in Griswold v. Connecticut - the case that established women's right to obtain any birth control at all - was the director of PP in Connecticut, arrested for violating a law that forbade all forms of fertility control. This decision making birth control legal happened in 1965, after three quarters of a century of struggle.

That's why I don't believe for one minute that the war on PP has anything to do with abortion or the sanctity of life. In addition to the hypocrisies already listed by myself and other posters, this persecution has gone on since well before abortion became legal and PP started providing them.

It dates back to times when women were legally considered chattels - husbands and fathers could legally collect their wives' and daughters' paychecks without the consent of the women who actually earned them. It was a time when large families were a financial advantage in an economy that was still largely agricultural.

PPs "offense" is not abortion. It's the enabling of women to control our own bodies and reproduction, which becomes the beginnings of control over our own economic welfare.

PP didn't do it single-handedly, but they played real leadership role in the struggle. They still do.

So, yes. Thank you Planned Parenthood.

Edited by heron

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Just for the record, I wonder the term in months of the aborted fetus shown?

I was not traumatized by seeing that photo posted by pmabraham.

I had an abortion at age 19, which I remember for two reasons: it was done on the day man first walked on the moon, and the procedure was done without ANY anesthesia.

I have never regretted it.

If I hadn't had PP tie my tubes, and happened to get pregnant, I would do it again.

eta: I just got my mail, and there is a letter from Rand Paul with 4 petitions to send to two senators, a congressman and the senate majority leader. It is all about reversing Roe vs. Wade. There are 8 "Whereas's" and one "Therefore" on each petition.

I'm getting out the white-out and making up my OWN "Whereas's" and Therefore's", and I will be mailing the altered petition/form to those mentioned above, as if it would make any difference.

Edited by No Stars In My Eyes

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