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Not a surprise to those who’ve been connecting the dots for the last 1/2 years.

The Times appears to be trying to save their reputation, and whoever is leaking this info to them is trying to get out ahead of the story.

It will be fun to watch the Dems panic and implode as America realizes they, including the Obama administration have been up to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/politics/fbi-government-investigator-trump.html

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It always makes me smile when Trumpsters write about Democrats imploding.

No implosion anywhere!

We have a field of 20+ running for president.

All the picks are top-notch.

None defends White Nationalists.

None mock the handicapped.

None sexually assaults women, and then brags on tape about it.

The implosion, is happening at the WH.

Such a flawed, corrupt, inept man is Trump.

If Republicans treasure their party, they should worry less about Democrats "imploding," and step away from hate and bigotry, and embrace William Weld.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

Not a surprise to those who’ve been connecting the dots for the last 1/2 years.

The Times appears to be trying to save their reputation, and whoever is leaking this info to them is trying to get out ahead of the story.

It will be fun to watch the Dems panic and implode as America realizes they, including the Obama administration have been up to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/politics/fbi-government-investigator-trump.html

This is absolutely nothing new.

Of course Trump wasn't spied upon, as Barr has alleged.

This all stems from George Papadopoulos, not being able to hold his liquor, and the Australian government alerting the FBI.

Should the FBI not investigate?

The last time I checked, pathetic George Papadopoulos plead guilty in the Mueller round-up of rats.

Is this what Fox and the Free Beacon are talking about?

Desperate times for Trump supporters.

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Barr seems to be practiced and comfortable with stating that there was spying on a campaign before admitting that he doesn't have evidence that the FBI were spying on the Trump campaign and would look for evidence.  He also said he didn't know that the Mueller team was unhappy with his summary and he wasn't certain if anyone in the administration has suggested that he investigate political enemies. It's pretty bad when the attorney general doesn't believe he must be truthful with Congress. 

 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Barr seems to be practiced and comfortable with stating that there was spying on a campaign before admitting that he doesn't have evidence that the FBI were spying on the Trump campaign and would look for evidence.  He also said he didn't know that the Mueller team was unhappy with his summary and he wasn't certain if anyone in the administration has suggested that he investigate political enemies. It's pretty bad when the attorney general doesn't believe he must be truthful with Congress. 

 

Believe that as you wish. But doesn’t change the fact that the Trump campaign was spied on, and that Democrats were the ones colluding with foreign governments.

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On 5/3/2019 at 7:19 AM, SC_RNDude said:

Not a surprise to those who’ve been connecting the dots for the last 1/2 years.

The Times appears to be trying to save their reputation, and whoever is leaking this info to them is trying to get out ahead of the story.

It will be fun to watch the Dems panic and implode as America realizes they, including the Obama administration have been up to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/politics/fbi-government-investigator-trump.html

Doesn't the FBI have both intelligence and law enforcement responsibilities? Intelligence is the secret gathering of information.

Do not the FBI roles include protecting and defending the United States against terrorist and foreign intelligence threats AND upholding and enforcing the criminal laws of the United States?

The FBI was spying on George Papadopoulos. He proved to actually be a criminal, who thankfully did not succeed in getting candidate Trump to criminally collude with agents of the Russian government. 

"Through his false statements and omissions, defendant PAPADOPOULOS impeded the FBI ‘s ongoing investigation into the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and the Russian government’ s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election."    From page 3:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download 

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, Defendant.

a.    Defendant PAPADOPOULOS claimed that his interactions with an overseas professor, who defendant PAPADOPOULOS understood to have substantial connections to Russian government officials, occurred before defendant PAP ADOPOULOS became a foreign policy adviser to the Campaign.

Defendant PAPADOPOULOS acknowledged that the professor had told him about the Russians possessing "dirt" on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails," but stated multiple times that he learned that information prior to joining the Campaign.

 In truth and in fact, however, defendant PAPADOPOULOS learned he would be an advisor to the Campaign in early March, and met the professor on or about March 14, 2016; the professor only took interest in defendant PAPADOPOULOS because of his status with the Campaign; and the professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS about the "thousands of emails" on or about April 26, 2016, when defendant PAPADOPOULOS had been a foreign policy adviser to the Campaign for over a month.

b.     Defendant PAPADOPOULOS further told the investigating agents that the professor was "a nothing" and "just a guy talk[ing] up connections or something."

In truth and in fact, however, defendant PAPADOPOULOS understood that the professor had substantial connections to Russian government officials (and had met with some of those officials in Moscow immediately prior to telling defendant PAPADOPOULOS about the "thousands of emails") and, over a period of months, defendant PAPADOPOULOS repeatedly sought to use the professor's Russian connections in an effort to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials.

c.    Defendant PAPADOPOULOS claimed he met a certain female Russian national before he joined the Campaign and that their communications consisted of emails such as, '"Hi , how are you?"'

 In truth and in fact, however, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the female Russian national on or about March 24, 2016, after he had become an adviser to the Campaign; he believed that she had connections to Russian government officials; and he sought to use her Russian connections over a period of months in an effort to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials...

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download 

 

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2 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

The FBI was spying on George Papadopoulos. He proved to actually be a criminal, who thankfully did not succeed in getting candidate Trump to criminally collude with agents of the Russian government. 

"Through his false statements and omissions, defendant PAPADOPOULOS impeded the FBI ‘s ongoing investigation into the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and the Russian government’ s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election."    From page 3:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download 

 

In the Trump era the American rule of law is under open and direct attack by an authoritarian and his supporters.  The GOP have abandoned their historical stance as advocates for law and order, family values, and accountability to carry water for a man who ignores and breaks laws with impunity, has no values of any kind especially family values, and has no interest in ever being held accountable for his own lies or misdeeds. 

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5 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

It will be fun to watch the Dems panic and implode as America realizes they, including the Obama administration have been up to.

 

You have an odd sense of "fun".

You do realize, don't you, that imploded Dems won't make near as big of a stink as the GOP keeps making in their currently, supposedly intact form?

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17 minutes ago, No Stars In My Eyes said:

You have an odd sense of "fun".

You do realize, don't you, that imploded Dems won't make near as big of a stink as the GOP keeps making in their currently, supposedly intact form?

I’m not sure what you are trying to say.

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7 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

The Times appears to be trying to save their reputation, and whoever is leaking this info to them is trying to get out ahead of the story.



Safe their reputation from what?  Publishing fake news until it's something you want to hear?  

 

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What one camp calls "spying on Trump", the other is going to call "an investigation about a Russian offer to help the Trump campaign.

Not quite ready to panic and implode here just yet.  

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5 hours ago, herring_RN said:

Doesn't the FBI is unique have both intelligence and law enforcement responsibilities? Intelligence is the secret gathering of information.

Do not the FBI roles include protecting and defending the United States against terrorist and foreign intelligence threats AND upholding and enforcing the criminal laws of the United States?

The FBI was spying on George Papadopoulos. He proved to actually be a criminal, who thankfully did not succeed in getting candidate Trump to criminally collude with agents of the Russian government. 

"Through his false statements and omissions, defendant PAPADOPOULOS impeded the FBI ‘s ongoing investigation into the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and the Russian government’ s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election."    From page 3:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download 

 

He proved to be a criminal?  You of course mean by lying to the FBI.  Of course though, he wouldn’t have been in a position to lie to them if he wasn’t being spied on in the first place.

Anyway, I’m actually more concerned about a president’s administration spying on a candidate, based upon false information paid for by the candidate’s opponent.

Stayed tuned.  Things will make more sense as more comes out.

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