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You are reading page 33 of Special Council Muller Report. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

Who should redact the Muller’s Report?

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  1. 1. Who should redact the Muller’s Report?

    • Attorney General William Barr
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6 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

 I will ignore the statements and opinions of those who didn't read the report because they are just spouting ignorant assumptions.

Seems like a good plan, herring.

I hope others will follow your example.

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From NPR:

Maria Butina Says She Was 'Building Peace.' That's Not How The Feds See It

My sides hurt from laughing so hard, after reading this story.

Ms Butina, for those who have forgotten, is the Russian who recently pleaded guilty to conspiring to serve as an agent for a foreign government, within the US.

Yes, all those meetings with her Russian handler, and the NRA?

It was only for the purpose of "peace."

😝😝😝😝😝

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On 5/9/2019 at 10:40 AM, herring_RN said:

 I will ignore the statements and opinions of those who didn't read the report because they are just spouting ignorant assumptions.

That’s your prerogative, obviously.

However, it’s worth reminding you that those who I guess you are considering to be more well informed, spouted assumptions for two years of ample evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians to effect the outcome of our election.

 

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Yep, the report still says that Trump is a lying criminal. Definitely not exonerated.  Definitely not vindicated. 

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6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yep, the report still says that Trump is a lying criminal. Definitely not exonerated.  Definitely not vindicated. 

It says he is a lying criminal?  What page is that on?

Maybe the Democrats could make a specific argument as to what laws Trump has broken and specifically how he broke them?

Of course, it’s better for them to just throw out generalizations, like collusion and obstruction, without actually making a case for them.  Because, of course, they can’t. 

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29 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

It says he is a lying criminal?  What page is that on?

Maybe the Democrats could make a specific argument as to what laws Trump has broken and specifically how he broke them?

Of course, it’s better for them to just throw out generalizations, like collusion and obstruction, without actually making a case for them.  Because, of course, they can’t. 

It does, in so many words. It's hard to comprehend something that you have no interest in reading. 

There are a variety of thoughtful opinions, available in print and video, which can make cases for specific violations of laws and regulations. Maybe "can't" was the wrong word choice.

The argument isn't whether Trump has attempted obstruction right in the open, it's more what should Congress do about it. 

IMHO 

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28 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It does, in so many words. It's hard to comprehend something that you have no interest in reading. 

There are a variety of thoughtful opinions, available in print and video, which can make cases for specific violations of laws and regulations. Maybe "can't" was the wrong word choice.

The argument isn't whether Trump has attempted obstruction right in the open, it's more what should Congress do about it. 

IMHO 

It is my understanding, from the Mueller report, that the investigation did show obstruction, but that Trump wasn't charged because he sits in the WH.

There is that understanding that an occupant of the WH, can't be charged while sitting in WH.

Congress can impeach.

Or Trump could be charged upon leaving the WH.

Is that your understanding?

And that is why Trump is still fuming.

The ghost of Mueller follows him everywhere.

Maybe he thinks war with Iran will shake off the ghost of Robert Mueller.

My fear is an imploding economy and a new war.

Trump will be voted out, and the country will be left in tatters, for Democrats to piece together again.

Trump handles the country, as poorly as he handles his businesses.

No reason to think he won't leave the country bankrupt and broken.

It is, after all, the only thing he does successfully.

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

It says he is a lying criminal?  What page is that on?

Maybe the Democrats could make a specific argument as to what laws Trump has broken and specifically how he broke them?

Of course, it’s better for them to just throw out generalizations, like collusion and obstruction, without actually making a case for them.  Because, of course, they can’t. 

I read no evidence beyond reasonable doubt that President Trump committed a crime. 

If I post the page numbers where the report states President Trump lied will you read those few pages?

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3 hours ago, herring_RN said:

I read no evidence beyond reasonable doubt that President Trump committed a crime. 

If I post the page numbers where the report states President Trump lied will you read those few pages?

You ask that as if I haven’t read any of it, which is not what I said.

Anyway, I’m interested in how you think he is a criminal.  Mueller and his team worked for over two years, had unlimited resources, and a broad scope as to what they were allowed to look into, but yet couldn't determine he was a criminal, so I’m interested in how you and others here think he is?   Mueller didn’t charge him, so why should anyone else be investigating him let alone charging him with a crime?

Let me guess...the parts you want me to read are in part 2 of the report?  From what I hear and the parts I have read, part 2 amounts to a OpEd by Mueller.

Nope, nothing worthwhile there.  

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14 hours ago, herring_RN said:

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If I post the page numbers where the report states President Trump lied will you read those few pages

Not the one you asked, but yes, if you post the page numbers where the Mueller report states Mr. Trump lied I will read them.

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Thank you Chare!

For the next week I won't have time to go through it again so will only have time to post one:

Pages 70, 71, & 72: Trump responded to questions about possible connections to Russia by denying any business involvement in Russia—even though the Trump Organization had pursued a business project in Russia as late as June 2016. 

 Trump called “this whole thing with Russia” a “total deflection” and said that it was “farfetched” and “ridiculous.” Trump also said, “I have nothing to do with Russia.” Yet, according to the report, Trump told Michael Cohen that the potential Moscow tower project had not yet been finalized: “Why mention it if it is not a deal?” Trump said, despite the fact that a letter of intent had already been signed. In other words, Trump was willing to lie about a substantial conflict of interest.

https://dataviz.nbcnews.com/projects/20190415-mueller-report-embed/assets/full-mueller-report.pdf  

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12 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

You ask that as if I haven’t read any of it, which is not what I said.

Anyway, I’m interested in how you think he is a criminal.  Mueller and his team worked for over two years, had unlimited resources, and a broad scope as to what they were allowed to look into, but yet couldn't determine he was a criminal, so I’m interested in how you and others here think he is?   Mueller didn’t charge him, so why should anyone else be investigating him let alone charging him with a crime?

Let me guess...the parts you want me to read are in part 2 of the report?  From what I hear and the parts I have read, part 2 amounts to a OpEd by Mueller.

Nope, nothing worthwhile there.  

I'm sorry for the confusion. I clearly posted, "I read no evidence beyond reasonable doubt that President Trump committed a crime."

The parts describing how President Trump lied in his written response are NOT in part 2 of the report. They are in part 1.

Please see my answer to Chare if you are interested.

 

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