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this happened in Maryland and in Illinois that I know of. There are 100s of videos on you tube of people threatened with arrest by officials for video taping in public. Actually some are arrested but the charges later dropped.

This is one of my favorites.

Which ones?

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this happened in Maryland and in Illinois that I know of. There are 100s of videos on you tube of people threatened with arrest by officials for video taping in public. Actually some are arrested but the charges later dropped.

This is one of my favorites.

very interesting.

Thank you.

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Texas comes immediately to mind.

Obviously, you have never lived here in Texas or come from this state. I am so tired of people bashing Texas. It is a wonderful place to live. Everybody thinks we are gun toting racist rednecks. We for your information Texas is not trying to stop people from recording the police, in fact most police departments here wear bodycams. Yes we have our guns, but did you know that Texas is only one of five states the do not allow open carry of pistols. We can open carry long guns, but that does get tedious. Racist? We are one of the most racially diverse states in the country. It is common to see mixed race marriages here. Rednecks..well Kentucky has hillbillies and New England has Yankees..I have lived in both places and can tell you they are just as redneck as any Texan.

Many commentators have noted that only in Texas do people open shop doors for strangers routinely, say hello to everyone and make eye contact with everyone. In Houston we are only second to New York City of theater stage square footage. We have world class museums, Universities and we have the worlds largest Medical Center with some of the worlds greatest hospitals. For goodness sakes, the human genome project is headquartered here and they broke the genome code here. Texas is a great big state with everything from semi tropical areas to deserts, mountains, plains and forests. We are conservative in nature, but we watch out for our neighbors, take a serious stance on crime, and love our kids. Stop the Texas Bashing pleeeeease.

Back to your regularly scheduled topic.

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Obviously, you have never lived here in Texas or come from this state. I am so tired of people bashing Texas. It is a wonderful place to live. Everybody thinks we are gun toting racist rednecks. We for your information Texas is not trying to stop people from recording the police, in fact most police departments here wear bodycams...

Not to contradict your defense of Texas in general, but the specific claim made earlier was:

I hear some jurisdictions are trying to make it illegal to record police officers' behavior.

Texas was provided as an example. A bill was just recently entered into committee in the Texas House of representatives which would prevent police from being videotaped

Texas 'Cop Watcher' bill under fire from legal experts, law enforcement groups | Fox News

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did you read the bill? it would not prevent anyone from photographing police. It would create a buffer zone of 25 feet around the cop that bystanders need to leave for the protection of the police and victims/suspects. No where does it say you cannot video tape the police.

During an interview with WFAA's "Inside Texas Politics," Villalba made clear he wasn't opposed to videotaping police.

"All we're saying is provide [police] a halo," he told the program. "Give them a little room. We're not saying don't film. We're not saying stop. We're saying just step back a little bit."

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did you read the bill? it would not prevent anyone from photographing police. It would create a buffer zone of 25 feet around the cop that bystanders need to leave for the protection of the police and victims/suspects. No where does it say you cannot video tape the police.

During an interview with WFAA's "Inside Texas Politics," Villalba made clear he wasn't opposed to videotaping police.

"All we're saying is provide [police] a halo," he told the program. "Give them a little room. We're not saying don't film. We're not saying stop. We're saying just step back a little bit."

It's 25 feet or 100 feet if you're legally carrying a weapon. Even at 25 feet this can potentially limit the public's ability to videotape police. If police come into your home and start beating your family member, the 25 foot limit would likely limit your ability to record the encounter since 25 feet would probably put you into another room. If you're stopped at a light and police officer starts beating someone on the sidewalk, you wouldn't be able to record it even though there isn't any reason not to be able to. There are already laws that require the public to not physically interfere with the police, which includes just standing too close, so if the only purpose of the bill is to "give police some room", that's already a law, so what is this law for?

The law does not actually say it creates a 25 foot buffer around police for them to do their work, people can still get closer than that, they just can't videotape closer than that. So if it's only purpose is to create a physical buffer, it makes no sense to have it only apply to videotaping.

Whether you agree that there could actually be some situations where it would be illegal to film an officer in public where it wasn't illegal before, it's still a law that has been proposed which was the claim made previously.

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A summary of the law as it already exists in defining interference with police doing their jobs and what the proposed bill would change about the existing law, from Breitbart:

As Breitbart Texas reported, HB 2918 amends Section 38.15(1) of the Texas Penal Code, which makes it a crime if anyone 'interrupts, disrupts, impedes, or otherwise interferes with a peace officer while the peace officer is performing a duty or exercising authority imposed or granted by law.”

What HB 2918 does is add to the definition of what constitutes 'interfering” with an officer's duties, making it a Class B Misdemeanor to film, record, photograph, or document the officer within 25 feet while that officer is performing his official duties. That distance is extended to 100 feet if the person is carrying a concealed handgun. There is an exception for news media, but the current language of the bill does not include bloggers, independent journalists, or private citizens, and it is not clear whether online media outlets would be included in the exception either.

Backlash Grows Against Texas Rep. Villalba's Bill Criminalizing Bloggers Filming Cops

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@Kyrshamarks: glad to hear it. My son and his family are probably settling there. They live just north of Austin. They're looking for land now.

My grandchildren will be growing up there.

As for me, I'm staying in New Mexico.

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Personally, I'm still of two minds about recording police behavior.

What I'm finding interesting - and hopeful - is that the rabble-rousers on all sides seem to be staying out of it. All our demagogues need to keep their mouths shut and let the people directly involved work it out. After all, they're the ones who have to live with the consequences.

Move along, folks - nothing to see here.:blink:

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Obviously, you have never lived here in Texas or come from this state. I am so tired of people bashing Texas. It is a wonderful place to live. Everybody thinks we are gun toting racist rednecks. We for your information Texas is not trying to stop people from recording the police, in fact most police departments here wear bodycams. Yes we have our guns, but did you know that Texas is only one of five states the do not allow open carry of pistols. We can open carry long guns, but that does get tedious. Racist? We are one of the most racially diverse states in the country. It is common to see mixed race marriages here. Rednecks..well Kentucky has hillbillies and New England has Yankees..I have lived in both places and can tell you they are just as redneck as any Texan.

Many commentators have noted that only in Texas do people open shop doors for strangers routinely, say hello to everyone and make eye contact with everyone. In Houston we are only second to New York City of theater stage square footage. We have world class museums, Universities and we have the worlds largest Medical Center with some of the worlds greatest hospitals. For goodness sakes, the human genome project is headquartered here and they broke the genome code here. Texas is a great big state with everything from semi tropical areas to deserts, mountains, plains and forests. We are conservative in nature, but we watch out for our neighbors, take a serious stance on crime, and love our kids. Stop the Texas Bashing pleeeeease.

Back to your regularly scheduled topic.

I didn't bash Texas.

I offered the state as an answer to a previous question.

I'm glad that you love your state even while admitting that it (like mine) is far from perfect.

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isn't much better there with the police forcing that man to get a body cavity search and colonoscopy. Hopefully those health officials will lose their licenses to practice.

@Kyrshamarks: glad to hear it. My son and his family are probably settling there. They live just north of Austin. They're looking for land now.

My grandchildren will be growing up there.

As for me, I'm staying in New Mexico.

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