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3 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

Actually, there is a sizeable group of Americans, either looking to move out, or indeed, moving out.

NY Times had a story last week, about Americans moving to Mexico, and how their presence is changing the area.

Several women in my book club, have looked into immigration to New Zealand, and other places.

These are highly educated professionals, who are ashamed of being an American, with Trump at the helm.

Completely understandable.

 

Heard that before. If Trump gets elected..will move to Canada population.

 

Too bad that..I just don't see those people that became Canadians?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/22/move-to-canada-celebrities-donald-trump

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3 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Heard that before. If Trump gets elected..will move to Canada population.

 

Too bad that..I just don't see those people that became Canadians?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/22/move-to-canada-celebrities-donald-trump

I didn't write Canada.

I wrote; New Zealand.

I, myself, looked at Canada.

But I lack the $$,$$ that is required.

Otherwise, I would be gone!

But I also thought; what would John Adams do.

He would stay, and fight for his country.

And that is what I am doing.

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

What makes you think The United States of America..

cares about what the rest of the world thinks of us?

It's the world that is trying to come into our nation. Not the other way around.

It is called respect. A subject the present incumbent has no knowledge of. He is supposed to be the leader of the free world. If the free world does not respect him they will find someone else to be the leader. Angela Merkel, Emmanuel Macron, Justin Trudeau. Even New Zealands prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, has impressed enough people that she could take over and do a better job than Trump.

Of course Trump really wants the respect of Putin, Jon Un and any other dictator who comes along.

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15 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:

It is called respect. A subject the present incumbent has no knowledge of. He is supposed to be the leader of the free world. If the free world does not respect him they will find someone else to be the leader. Angela Merkel, Emmanuel Macron, Justin Trudeau. Even New Zealands prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, has impressed enough people that she could take over and do a better job than Trump.

Of course Trump really wants the respect of Putin, Jon Un and any other dictator who comes along.

Angela Merkel is an amazing leader.

Her time is coming to an end in Germany, and she will undoubtedly be missed.

Unfortunately, right now, the US has no one to offer up to take her place on the world stage.

Hopefully, that will change, come November 2020.

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36 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

Unfortunately, right now, the US has no one to offer up to take her place on the world stage.

Hopefully, that will change, come November 2020.

I have been looking at some of the contenders - mainly through Bill Maher, John Oliver and Trevor Noah's shows. There seems to be some good people in the mix.

 

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2 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

You should use the same prejudice against the certain individual who became a multi millionaire only after gaining seat in the political office.

Which one? Our history is full of examples of men going to Washington as legislators and leaving as millionaires. Should I guess which specific individual you might be feeling salty about? 

The reality is that greed has captured our legislate branch. The kleptocrats have pushed their money into the middle of the process and convinced the gullible that it's just the same as speech. Congress takes their money and legislates their economic agenda. The working classes are in danger of experiencing taxation with no representation as their wealthy legislators work for those who make them wealthy. 

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5 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

It is called respect. A subject the present incumbent has no knowledge of. He is supposed to be the leader of the free world. If the free world does not respect him they will find someone else to be the leader. Angela Merkel, Emmanuel Macron, Justin Trudeau. Even New Zealands prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, has impressed enough people that she could take over and do a better job than Trump.

Of course Trump really wants the respect of Putin, Jon Un and any other dictator who comes along.

You can't "demand" the trait of respect.

We as a nation, "earned" respect by the following traits.

a) we Chuck Norrised(?) everyone that dared to come against us

b) we showed everyone our wealth and success

c) we didn't bother anyone until they poked their noses into our business

 

He (Trump) isn't the leader of the free world. We (Trump voters. At least the ones I know of) voted for him to be a leader of the U.S.A and care about our nation first and last.

Having said that..I am fully aware of the Jeb Bush loyalists hiding in the GOP. They have been running the GOP for a long time, and still in force.

 

 

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4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Which one? Our history is full of examples of men going to Washington as legislators and leaving as millionaires. Should I guess which specific individual you might be feeling salty about? 

The reality is that greed has captured our legislate branch. The kleptocrats have pushed their money into the middle of the process and convinced the gullible that it's just the same as speech. Congress takes their money and legislates their economic agenda. The working classes are in danger of experiencing taxation with no representation as their wealthy legislators work for those who make them wealthy. 

I brought up the "individual in question" only because we are nit picking.

It was also this regarding President Trump.

We, as voters, chose the lesser of two evils as well. 🙂 At least in our judgement.

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oh no. "I" didn't mention CANADA. "I" mentioned these specific following countries!

So let's "ignore CANADA." It's not like the topic that "I" chose to use, were the claim Americans are "moving away from the U.S.A."

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4 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

You can't "demand" the trait of respect.

We as a nation, "earned" respect by the following traits.

a) we Chuck Norrised(?) everyone that dared to come against us

b) we showed everyone our wealth and success

c) we didn't bother anyone until they poked their noses into our business

He (Trump) isn't the leader of the free world. We (Trump voters. At least the ones I know of) voted for him to be a leader of the U.S.A and care about our nation first and last.

Having said that..I am fully aware of the Jeb Bush loyalists hiding in the GOP. They have been running the GOP for a long time, and still in force.

An excellent example of Seriously flawed thinking!

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chuck norris%3Athe real definition

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chuck norris

Regarding earned respect, I think that: 

Some people in authority believe they are entitled to respect simply due to their position. Of course that is not truly respect. 

A leader who lacks credibility because he or she says one thing and does another may be feared, but is not respected.

A person who won't admit being wrong or won't forgive other's mistakes is not respected. Disparaging people who make errors will reflect worse on the one who insults others than the one who made an honest error.

 

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2 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

You can't "demand" the trait of respect.

We as a nation, "earned" respect by the following traits.

a) we Chuck Norrised(?) everyone that dared to come against us

b) we showed everyone our wealth and success

c) we didn't bother anyone until they poked their noses into our business

 

He (Trump) isn't the leader of the free world. We (Trump voters. At least the ones I know of) voted for him to be a leader of the U.S.A and care about our nation first and last.

Having said that..I am fully aware of the Jeb Bush loyalists hiding in the GOP. They have been running the GOP for a long time, and still in force.

 

 

Herring covered respect pretty well above.

a) I think that North Korea and Viet Nam will disagree with you.

b) Oh yes, you show your wealth. Not always a pretty trait. Ask Donald Trump to show his wealth.

Success? Depends on how you define success. Life expectancy for example? You don't even manage the top 30.

c) Have you heard of the Bay of Pigs? Oliver North?

The office of the President of the United States comes with some large responsibilities. The present incumbent can neither spell nor pronounce responsibilities.

Should also add, do you remember Jeb Bush's role in the presidential election of 2000.

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

I brought up the "individual in question" only because we are nit picking.

It was also this regarding President Trump.

We, as voters, chose the lesser of two evils as well. 🙂 At least in our judgement.

You have no evidence that there was any hint of misconduct by the person you won't name, yet you casually and shamelessly imply that they some how compare to the unprecedented dishonesty and unreliability of Trump. It requires flawed thinking to believe that is an acceptable way to conduct oneself in a discussion forum.  

It requires flawed judgement to compare past presidents or public leaders with Trump and conclude that Trump would represent the lesser of just about any evils.

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