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With a long list of enemies, a taste for incendiary rhetoric and responsibility for a campaign website graphic that placed gunsight logos on a map of targeted congressional districts, it didn't take long for Sarah Palin to get pulled into the orbit of Saturday's massacre in Tucson.

Tragedy marks turning point for Palin - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

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The fact that they pulled the site as soon as they found out about the attack made them look guilty. I have no doubt that violent and extreme rhetoric effects mentally unbalanced people but nobody knows if it a factor in this case.

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The fact that they pulled the site as soon as they found out about the attack made them look guilty.

Perhaps this was done out of respect, rather than guilt.

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The "gunsight" marks on Palins map were NOT gunsights. They are commonly used SURVEYOR sites used to mark spots on maps. Unlike the BOMB target sites used by the Daily KOS and the Democratic party to mark people they wanted to defeat.

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So the scapegoating and outright blamimg of Republicans needs to stop. Infact the press has been slow to report that the deranged shooter may actually have been a extreme LEFT wing nut job.

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Perhaps this was done out of respect, rather than guilt.

From what I've seen of Palin, I doubt that.

The left already spends too much time talking about this woman who is truly not a person of substance or character. Why pay her so much attention? She is the Kim Kardashian of politics. Let's not use this tragedy to turn her into a victim also. Whether or not her words influenced the gunman (and I do think she is inflammatory and polarizing), let's keep some perspective. The young man obviously has an undiagnosed mental illness and that is the real tragedy here. This country does not value mental health care; we need to take this opportunity to focus on destigmatizing mental illness, improving mental health care and access and boosting research. Unfortunately, it's not gonna happen but I make the plea anyway.

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The "gunsight" marks on Palins map were NOT gunsights. They are commonly used SURVEYOR sites used to mark spots on maps.

Hairsplitting on your part......here's what Ms. Palin tweeted about her "survey sites" a while back "Remember months ago “bullseye” icon used 2 target the 20 Obamacare-lovin’ incumbent seats? We won 18 of 20 (90% success rate;T’aint bad)" After each win the "surveyor sites" turned red...does this sound like "surveyor sites"?

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Changing a marker color to denote a win is hair splitting? How else are you going to denote the win? Now you are hair splitting. First there was BDS. Bush Derangement Syndrome now the current rage is PDS. Palin Derangemnet Syndrome. The press all has it and so do most liberals.

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bill dedman writes: in light of today's shooting of rep. gabrielle giffords (d-ariz.), it's remarkable to watch this nbc video from march 2010 of her discussing vandalism and harassment during the health care debate, when the front door of her office was "kicked out or shot out." she says she is not fearful, though "the rhetoric is incredibly heated." msnbc

congresswoman gabrielle giffords talks palin cross hairs

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While I find the whole "second amendment remedies/don't retreat, reload" line of rhetoric revolting - and refuse to vote for anyone using it - I honestly can't lay this one at Palin's feet, or anyone elses' except the man who pulled the trigger.

And perhaps the "fiscally responsible" types, both private and public, who have spent the last 40 years gutting what little mental health care we had.

When the main resource for psych emergencies is the county jail, what did we think was going to happen?

Not that this guy would have sought help ... he's about the right age for a number of major psychiatric illnesses to show up, a major characteristic of which is total lack of insight into one's own illness.

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I am notorious for having a problem with people who go "all out" to back up political parties or politicians. I just don't understand why people do it.

Kyrshamarks, really? These people only want you to help them make millions, they are not intersted in securing the future of anybody but themselves. You are not helping your country or being patriotic. Rather you are being played the fool. Don't you even realize this just a little bit? They only do it for the money honey. Time to grow up and understand these things. How can people live to adulthood and not be able to process a situation and remove themselves from it when they are being taken advantage of. You can do better for yourself.

It's just plain worrisome to me.

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Changing a marker color to denote a win is hair splitting? How else are you going to denote the win? Now you are hair splitting. First there was BDS. Bush Derangement Syndrome now the current rage is PDS. Palin Derangemnet Syndrome. The press all has it and so do most liberals.

No, you and the far right press scrambling to look good and calling them "surveyor marks" especially when Ms. Palin herself called them "Bullseyes" is hairsplitting. Call them what they are. Did Ms. Palin want to go to those areas and "survey"? No they were targets for defeat.

Sarah has reaped what she has sown. Just as when Mr. Obama called the right "the enemy".

However, I'm not supportive of the extreme liberal press, and it's the extremists like the Daily Kos, not mainstream and moderate liberal press, using this for political gain. I've watched MSNBC most of this morning and they aren't really touching this. On the Morning Joe show this morning it was all about how both sides have been engaging in ugly politics, not just republicans.

I imagine maps of target areas, be them political, or business, or whatever, are common and the extreme liberal press need to give it a break. The blame game isn't appropriate, scapegoating Ms. Palin isn't appropriate, as the guy was obviously mentally deranged.

I do think this can be a wakeup call on how we conduct politics without playing the blame game. I think the country this might highlight how weary we are of politics as usual. I've even moved to the center, becoming supportive of the "No Labels" approach.

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I am with some other posters here in that Sarah is not worth the ink, paper, brain cells, that are focused on her. She has shown herself to be a quitter over and over in the past. She may be a festering sore but I doubt you can actually blame her for the current situation. I think nothing would be different if they had placed happy faces on the targeted elections.

The shooter was ill. Mental illness is one of those things we keep skimping on when budgets need to be balanced. Many people are so uncomfortable even discussing mental illness that redlining is an easy option.

I may have little respect for the "poor Darjeelings", members of the Tea Party, but I don't think it helps to blame the deadly acts of a mentally ill person on common ways of denoting areas on a map, whatever you call them. Better to focus our efforts on obtaining care for those who need it. If they want to reopen the health care debate let's hope they focus on the needs of the mentally ill.

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