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You are reading page 148 of Right to Bear Arms. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

You are forgetting the part I quoted and linked which says "AND after......." That makes a big difference.

Every time either of us has purchased a weapon, and he does it far more often than I do, a full background check is done. This is regardless of where or from whom the purchase is made.

And of course, when we got our CCW permits we had full background checks done, as well as every 5 years when we renew.

I don't know how to say it any more clearly......our experience is that every time, a background check is done, and of course we both have permits also.

That's not how that reads, it's says "and (2)..." which means the statement after the number 2 is was is placed after the colon preceding the numbered statements

".. not required to undergo a background check if the permit was issued...after an authorized government official..."

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That's not how that reads, it's says "and (2)..." which means the statement after the number 2 is was is placed after the colon preceding the numbered statements

".. not required to undergo a background check if the permit was issued...after an authorized government official..."

"yada yada yada AND (2) yada yada yada"

To me me that means both yada things must be done.

Spin it anyway you wish. I have been telling youy what really happens here in WA. You are not a resident, I gather, so what does it really matter to you and why do you feed the need to be the expert.

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As a technical college instructor, what weapon should I carry in the classroom, to discourage and/or take out an active shooter? Is body armor advised? And how much training will I require? I have heard that the military requires soldiers to train 5 times a year to maintain skills.

Hopefully, the college will cover the cost and pay for my time. Seems likely, what with the state having a huge education budget shortfall.

If your college sets up a training program, the instructor will be able to tell you minimum training requirements and may recommend weapons based on his/her assessment of your capabilities. Whatever the minimum, I would practice at least monthly to keep my skills in good shape.

There is no one answer for the military as required arms training varies widely depending on service branch and unit mission. Seals train much more than hull technicians, snipers much more than medics.

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If your college sets up a training program, the instructor will be able to tell you minimum training requirements and may recommend weapons based on his/her assessment of your capabilities. Whatever the minimum, I would practice at least monthly to keep my skills in good shape.

There is no one answer for the military as required arms training varies widely depending on service branch and unit mission. Seals train much more than hull technicians, snipers much more than medics.

They could and should use the FFDO model that trains airline captains. All volunteer pilots who, by the way, are not paid anything extra for participating, do not get paid to attend the training facility in NM, cannot use their flight privileges to even get there. But pilots are very possessive about their planes, and their passengers......think mother bear and cubs.

I was in Reno, waiting for the start of the Reno Air Races, on 9-11. The conversation around our meager campfire (because now only a handful of our group could even get there) was very chilling.

Not my airplane.....Not my passengers. Every one had a plan. Now not that some of those would have proven a saving plan, but it surely got them to thinking hard about the low-lifes who took 4 aircraft and hundreds of humans out that day.

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I hope the people who legally bought guns and sold them to Michael Bassier no longer have clean records.

Brooklyn DA: Gun-Smuggling Ring Sold More Than 100 Weapons To Undercover Cop

DA: 8 Charged After Undercover NYPD Cop Buys 112 Illegal Guns « CBS New York

Tracking illegal guns heading into New York

October 22, 2015

... Officer Holder is the 4th officer killed in New York City this year. Most of the murder weapons have one thing in common -- they are illegal.

And while the police haven't yet determined where his shooter's gun came from, the guns used to kill the three other officers this year were purchased or stolen from pawnshops in Georgia...

... Investigators say the alleged ringleader, Michael Bassier, paid people with clean criminal records in Georgia and Pennsylvania to purchase firearms. Authorities took a surveillance photo of Bassier carrying the weapons in a bag and they secretly recorded him on his cellphone.

"I'm selling them the right way and the wrong way...When I'm out of state, like in Atlanta and Georgia and all that, it's all legal, but New York it's completely illegal," said Bassier.

When asked if he was fighting a losing battle, Thompson said, "I don't think that we are fighting a losing battle I think that it is a very challenging endeavor because each gun that we get off the street we potentially save a life."...

Tracking illegal guns heading into New York - CBS News

New York Police Officer Arrested For Trafficking Illegal Guns

 

New York Police Officer Arrested For Trafficking Illegal Guns - Metropolis - WSJ

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Buying guns for someone else is an illegal straw sale. All the government needs for prosecution, besides the evidence, is the will to prosecute.

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In Texas, with my CHL, I only need to show it when I purchase the gun. No background check, and furthermore even if there was, there is no waiting period to get the gun.

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In Texas, with my CHL, I only need to show it when I purchase the gun. No background check, and furthermore even if there was, there is no waiting period to get the gun.

as it should be nation-wide.

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Buying guns for someone else is an illegal straw sale. All the government needs for prosecution, besides the evidence, is the will to prosecute.

There is no federal statute against the straw sale of a firearm which someone can be prosecuted under. Straw sales are illegal in a round-about way; the background check form has a box that must be checked that says they are the primary purchaser, which is why straw purchases are prosecuted as a falsification of a federal form, not as a straw purchase. Prosecution for incorrectly filling out a form is not particularly useful, and leaves many actions surrounding a straw sale completely free of criminal prosecution, such as soliciting a straw sale or when an FFL fails to prohibit an obvious straw sale.

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as it should be nation-wide.

As long as a state requires a federal background check to obtain the permit, then it does qualify as substitute for further background checks with transfers. Not all states require a full background check for a CCW permit, so those permits don't count as durable evidence that someone has already passed a background check, which makes sense. The disagreement has been with whether or not we states should be allowed to chose not to require a federal background check for a CCW permit.

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