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"You're a nurse, What do you think of the ANA meeting with the President . . .?"

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Yes, we desperately need reform.. agreed! Expand the broken abused system of Medicaid and Medicare (and further bankrupt the states in the process)... no thanks!

If we fix health care finance as a whole we will fix Medicare/Medicaid in the process. While not perfect Medicare/Medicaid do manage to assure health care coverage for millions of Americans. The current proposal wending its way through Congress will actually increase the number of people covered by private insurance.

Al Franken effectively discussed the real issues facing health care at the MN State Fair.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNs7Zpqo98 [/YOUTUBE]

Listen carefully as it is about 3 minutes into the video he discusses the differences between 2 cities in TX and the reimbursements derived. One city is roughly twice as expensive as the physicians own all of the labs and hospitals.

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I wish everyone would be as civil in disagreement as those folks.

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I encourage anyone that is a member of the ana to cancel their memberships due to the support of the obama plan. I say we organize a group of nurses to march in washington that are worried about the turmoil this plan is going to create leading to healthcare rationing due to the shortage of nurses already! WHere are the nurses going to come from to care for these millions and millions of uninsured people? I'll be there with all my other co workers.

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I think it would help the shortage if employers would hire new grads. I agree though about the ANA. They will never get my money.

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I wonder if they would ship in extra nurses from outside the country? That is what they were doing in Hawai'i for the shortage - most Filipino's. As far as the ANA goes, my personal opinion and political stance goes against what they stand for. I believe that AACN is better for me, they don't lobby for one president elect vs. another (at least to the best of my knowledge!). They stick to the issues, and try to elude the politics. The ANA has sent me campaign literature in the past and I was irritated by their support on candidate above another. They do not give either candidate a fair report. But, then again, that is hard to come by in any media source, and thus lies most of our problems.

And as far as Al Franken goes . . . "I am going to vote how I want to vote". . . huh? Doesn't sound right to me. It was nice to see a politician having a civil discussion with people, and those people being respectful.

Another point . . . we have had preventive care around for years - HMO's. Do they work? That would be interesting to find out. Why don't we look into correcting the fraud and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid? Maybe we could start there and make everybody happy.

Edited by Rebel Yell

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I can honestly say that I do not belong to the ANA because of their left sided agenda. They do not represent me in any way. They give nurses a bad name. The truth about the ANA and their lack of importance in any way needs to told. Thanks for pointing it out.

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I wish everyone would be as civil in disagreement as those folks.

I do too...because it reflects a "genuine discourse" of ideas...both sides of the aisle being heard.

For the first time, in a long time, I actually felt like I was listening to an assembly of adults tallking...a rarity, it seems, in today's politics.

Thanks, Viking, for sharing the vid.

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Another point . . . we have had preventive care around for years - HMO's. Do they work? That would be interesting to find out. Why don't we look into correcting the fraud and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid? Maybe we could start there and make everybody happy.

(bolding added by me)

Quite possibly because, for every recipient receiving undeserved benefits, there are numerous vendors committing much higher-dollar fraud with fudged paperwork. Those fraudently spent dollars are going somewhere!

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