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On 2/7/2020 at 9:18 PM, luv2 said:

"PeteCare"  is not even medicare those who want it

"Under Buttigieg's plan, people who are retroactively enrolled would owe up to 8.5 percent of their income, because that's the upper limit for monthly premium"

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jgemeg/mayor-pete-buttigieg-health-plan-includes-retroactive-billing-enrollment

 

"First, individuals with lower incomes in states that have refused to expand Medicaid will be automatically enrolled in the public option".

The plan is not fair. There are different levels based on how much money a person earns every year. It does not take into account how many different  Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. It makes no sense Petcare numbers do not add up.

https://peteforamerica.com/policies/health-care/

please feel free to take a look 

 

I'm no fan of mayor Pete, but your argument doesn't make a lot of sense.  

A big reason why so many families are "living paycheck to paycheck" is due to healthcare costs.  For households that don't qualify for employer provided coverage, the average cost of a non-marketplace insurance plan is more than $20,000 for a family, which well exceeds the 8.5% cap his plan proposes since the average household income is around $62,000 (30% is way more than 8.5%). He does this by transferring $1.4 trillion of healthcare costs currently paid for by mainly average Americans to corporations.  

You seem to want to reduce healthcare costs to the low and middle class but oppose every plan out there apparently specifically because they reduce costs to the low and middle classes.

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23 hours ago, MunoRN said:

I'm no fan of mayor Pete, but your argument doesn't make a lot of sense.  

A big reason why so many families are "living paycheck to paycheck" is due to healthcare costs.  For households that don't qualify for employer provided coverage, the average cost of a non-marketplace insurance plan is more than $20,000 for a family, which well exceeds the 8.5% cap his plan proposes since the average household income is around $62,000 (30% is way more than 8.5%). He does this by transferring $1.4 trillion of healthcare costs currently paid for by mainly average Americans to corporations.  

You seem to want to reduce healthcare costs to the low and middle class but oppose every plan out there apparently specifically because they reduce costs to the low and middle classes.

I am not a fan of Pete because I do not know where he stands on anything.  His policies for minorities as mayor in South  Bend, Indiana was horrible. How is he going be able to be the President if he could not embrace or accept diversity?

10 years he spoke to the Tea Party and was able to identify with them even though on multiple occasions they said they wanted President Obama to fail?

Why has no candidate bought up Pete Buttigieg and the Tea Party? Is he embracing the opinions of allowing the country to fail? 

  

Yes,  I agree with you healthcare plays a role in the reason people are living paycheck to paycheck. People are living paycheck to paycheck for a number of reasons emergencies, natural disasters,  not being able to work, getting fired from a job, being in debt an increase in the cost of living, and not having a pay raise (management and executives have received pay raise while worker have not ), there are so many other reasons. 

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2019-01-11/stretched-thin-majority-of-americans-live-paycheck-to-paycheck

No, many of the plans the candidates are proposing are not transparent about how much tax will increase.  

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On 2/9/2020 at 4:48 PM, MunoRN said:

I'm no fan of mayor Pete, but your argument doesn't make a lot of sense.  

A big reason why so many families are "living paycheck to paycheck" is due to healthcare costs.  For households that don't qualify for employer provided coverage, the average cost of a non-marketplace insurance plan is more than $20,000 for a family, which well exceeds the 8.5% cap his plan proposes since the average household income is around $62,000 (30% is way more than 8.5%). He does this by transferring $1.4 trillion of healthcare costs currently paid for by mainly average Americans to corporations.  

You seem to want to reduce healthcare costs to the low and middle class but oppose every plan out there apparently specifically because they reduce costs to the low and middle classes.

 

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On 2/7/2020 at 11:41 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

Why do you think people are scared of Mayor Pete? I'm not scared of him. I'm a bit frightened of the empowered authoritarian bully currently consolidating power. Mayor Pete would be a calm alternative to the daily chaos that is to be expected from corrupt and dishonest "leadership". 

Doesn't this candidate offer an approach to healthcare that is more to your liking?

 

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Shrugs

No actual conversation...or individual thoughts...just a notion that someone is afraid of the gay candidate...followed by another video. 

 

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18 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Shrugs

No actual conversation...or individual thoughts...just a notion that someone is afraid of the gay candidate...followed by another video. 

 

His sexuality has nothing to do with his inability to do the job as President. He fired the first black firefighter and demoted the first black captain in South Bend, Indiana. He tore people's houses down with little regard instead of offering them housing grants to get their house up to "code" (which could have been an investment by having more people work in construction). He kept the schools in South Bend,  Indiana segregated and had no idea this has occurred. He used a word-salad to explain his position. This has nothing to do with sexual orientation he was mayor for 8 years and did nothing but increase the racial divide, gentrify the downtown of South Bend, Indiana. Have you ever seen the movie the Manchurian candidate? Everything is perfect on the resume, but when you examine the actual work there is nothing behind the words. The words do match the works.

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My preference is for Warren but I will support whomever the Democratic Party nominates.

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27 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

My preference is for Warren but I will support whomever the Democratic Party nominates.

Senator Elizabeth Warren can not even work with people of color while running for President. According to multiple news agencies

"six minority women have quit Warren’s Nevada campaign due to a perceived toxic work environment. Former field organizer Megan Lewis said there was something “wrong with the culture” and that she “filed a complaint with HR, but the follow-up I received left me feeling as though I needed to make myself smaller or change who I was to fit into the office culture"."

 Questions I have now :

1- How is she going to help minorities as President when she allowed this culture in her campaign (the tone is always set at the top)?

2-How are you going to run a country when you can not even run your own campaign to be inclusive?

3- Why has she not been primaried for her Senate seat?

This is the same candidate who lied about her ethnicity to get a job at Harvard Law School, who plagiarized a  dish to get credit for something she did not even make, who lied about leaving her first job, who is claiming to be  Native American because she had "high cheekbones" (which is offensive), she lied about Senator  Bernie Sanders, and she states what she assumes voters, woman with a plan, but no credible way of paying for any of her ideas without increasing tax on the middle class.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/463734-saagar-enjeti-calls-warrens-credibility-into-question

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/elizabeth-warrens-new-nevada-campaign-racism-scandal-just-as-hypocritical-as-youd-expect

 

 

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21 hours ago, luv2 said:

His sexuality has nothing to do with his inability to do the job as President. He fired the first black firefighter and demoted the first black captain in South Bend, Indiana. He tore people's houses down with little regard instead of offering them housing grants to get their house up to "code" (which could have been an investment by having more people work in construction). He kept the schools in South Bend,  Indiana segregated and had no idea this has occurred. He used a word-salad to explain his position. This has nothing to do with sexual orientation he was mayor for 8 years and did nothing but increase the racial divide, gentrify the downtown of South Bend, Indiana. Have you ever seen the movie the Manchurian candidate? Everything is perfect on the resume, but when you examine the actual work there is nothing behind the words. The words do match the works.

Cherry picked complaints against an elected official do not equal fear. 

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Anyone notice that there doesn’t seem to be a “Questioning Bernie Sanders” thread? Are the Bernie bros at it again?

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27 minutes ago, heron said:

Anyone notice that there doesn’t seem to be a “Questioning Bernie Sanders” thread? Are the Bernie bros at it again?

My thoughts exactly. 

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57 minutes ago, heron said:

Anyone notice that there doesn’t seem to be a “Questioning Bernie Sanders” thread? Are the Bernie bros at it again?

Possibly. 

Who wants to start the thread? *wink*

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