Many of your remarks, i feel i already addressed in posts above, so i will not repost the words again here, too. I do not 'condemn' her beliefs, i question how she came to accept the beliefs in the first place. I feel so long as one IS polite, it is okay to have a different POV, or to question the basis of how we ever came to accept some of our beliefs.
Not questioning these ideas had helped religions grow more powerful. I don't think having a different POV equates to 'scorn', but, some people do.
I was generous enough, that when someone stated earlier their son believes every part of the bible, that i did not list about a bazillion obvious false statements, contradictory statements, or severely, horrifically immoral parts of the bible. I skipped that.
but, that'd be a fun discussion to have someday.
Why discuss how Jesus might have reacted to today's issues? Well, I was just pointing out my favorite feature about Jesus, when i mentioned there are many qualities about Jesus that even i like. Some to many christians feel that "What would Jesus do?" is a guideline for today's issues. But, i can agree, there could be more rational ways to approach the issues of today, than by studying what would Jesus do.
Many people on the religious rightwing, should reconsider the legislations and attitudes they push while their wearing their religion on their sleeves, IF their attitudes even slightly resembles the examples given by the gods that they are wearing on their sleeves. Some politicians do openly state they vote by their religious beliefs/"brinigng god back to Washington"/"what would Jesus do", etc. Seems to be perverting what Jesus actually said and did, imo, and such politicians should be questioned how they can push such blatant cognitive dissonance.
but, overall, i am very much FOR complete, 500%, separation of religion and govt. So, sorry about that, i was just saying my favorite part about Jesus, was, his liberal views on almost every subject. Jesus was fairly consistent on those topics, too.
OH, i thought a public thread ABOUT GODS, was a good place to discuss gods, even if not everyone agrees. Contrary to how many people see it, i don't think having a different opinion, or even just questioning, are 'disrespectful' or wrong or offensive. I think it is sometimes the root of self-exploration or good discussions.
I do not see questioning or politely having a different POV as same thing as belittling, and do feel replying to her post to me, was a reasonable thing to do, even if i have questions about how one ends up participating in the religions that they participate in,
on a public thread
to explore ideas people have about gods.
I think exploring how or why one came to believe the things they believe, is a good thing to regurgitate and reconsider now and then. But, many theists seem to think curiosity and questioning why or how they ever first came to believe what they believe ---is a bad idea.
(SOME forms of questioning are acceptable, it is in obvious agreement, or done as academic just 'fine tuning' with other theists who all basically agree the bible is 'good', or done to prepare the believer for facing things they might hear that don't click with what they've being taught, etc. so their beliefs they are taught don't fall apart)
But questioning why we believe things, where we got the idea in the first place, is often seen as bad idea by some theists, or even 'scornful'. I think exploring how we came to accept an idea as true, with no evidence, can be interesting discussion or even just a self-exploration to have, and should be encouraged.
Why should it matter that you do think Jesus is a 'good' god?
^ *I* am not asking ^that, oh heavens no, i am not asking that!! don't blast me, i am not actually asking that.
but, i am just turning your own words a bit, so you can hear it might sound in reverse if i were to post that to someone who posted they thought Jesus is a good god. I think i might get slammed.
These two remarks, your remark, and my hypothetical remark below it,
kind of seem the same, imo,
but, in reverse, it feels different now, don't they? It almost sounds "scornful" to some extent, either remark....
btw, i was using the word "you" in a general sense, not you-YOU, Leslie, if that makes sense.
I often hear people state Jesus was some amazing example of how to live----------------- it almost never questioned. It seems to be almost universally accepted, that yes, that Jesus was good moral example to follow.
and i think it is worth exploring if that is true, or not. I think some of the things he was "for" are awesome, :) (as i listed above) :)
but, i also think some of the messages he put out, are not moral, not 'good', and worth exploring as possibly very bad ideas. But, mostly,
everyone has been convinced that Jesus is "good" example (many posts on threads saying that) but, i say, it's open to debate, if the either half of the bible ARE actually 'good' they way so many insist it is.
i HOPE i helped you understand. f i failed, i did try, anyway. I also hope i replied sloooowly enough to show respect.