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  1. ;)A very serious Scrabble player, and not above having a bit of semantic fun.
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    Jury Duty - Could you condemn someone to death?

    In our PC day and age, I was not sure if, "g-d" was agnostic/paganistic affect, or if you were "traditional". In any case, absolutely no offense intended, I just love spirited conversation!:D From a lifetime as a PK (Preacher's Kid), I have to make the observation that g-d/God would not seem to have issue with denominations, per se, knowing that from our limited perspective(s) we are doing our best to understand and relate to Him(though the warnings in our book of Kings is clear that He would rather we worry far less about our structure, more about His). Our problem, is that we fall in love with the rules, who sits closest to the head of the table, so to speak. IME, we have denominations because we think differently, some more formally/structured, some more emotional/free-spirited. We cannot legitimately say that either aspect is "wrong", but they have been taken to (typically) human extremes. "Original intent" in our creation is clearly non-hierarchial, but consequentially, everything after the Fall is a patch & repair job. Messy, at times... BOT
  3. Heh, heh. Grammar is as important as content. Poor grammar and punctutaion are evidence of disordered thought processes, highly indicative of limited consequence evaluation, and minimal leadership skills. This, even in those rare instances of idiocy-savant, or discipline-specific genius(i.e., profound conceptual and theoretical grasp, but gross inability to relate verbally). AEB: "content > grammer"= FACT! :D:lol2: Don't worry, beast, we accept you in your geniusness!
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    Ovulation and Sex.

    This "other similarity" has brought my wife and I hours of entertainment, especially on the highways in OK.:D Commonsense, how can you be in nursing, man, this response is entirely inappropriate. You're supposed to say something like, "Nope. You are some kind of genetic outlier. That's totally weird. I've never heard of any other person In. The. World. experiencing that..." Take a shovel and drag all those insecurities and unresolved issues to the surface. :lol2:
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    Jury Duty - Could you condemn someone to death?

    Execution is expensive because of the appeals process. Raw cost, execution is around $500, not including doc & nurse salary. I have no personal issue with "harsher" prisons, either, but frankly, have a difficult time validating it (for the capital offender) as other than torture. So, in context, $0.85 to the head is both more humane and economical than 30, 40, 50 years at The Wall (old TSP). For non-capital offenders, absolutely, prison should be a place you never want to see again. Here's some info, from someone (me) who worked a brief stint as a CO. US prisons used to be self-sustaining. Inmates grew their own food, made clothes, furniture, maintained the facilities and vehicles. Food production is no longer legal, in most states, because of the agricultural and grocers' lobbies- they were being denied right of commerce, the ability to sell (at our expense) to the prisons. Same with making furniture, clothes, operating hydro/coal/gas electric plants, etc., these have been determined (legally) to be conflicts of interest, in relation to State fair/open-bid acts and laws. Point being, if you have to work for your food, keep your lights & heat/AC on and not have your toilet spilling over the floor in your bedroom, you develop some restraint, social integration skills, and self-discipline. Of course, all that is, "inhumane"(has been legally determined to be so), at least to the degree that the DP is...
  6. Yes, we do know about spacing our text, don't we...:D
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    Jury Duty - Could you condemn someone to death?

    Contextually, from God.:D Selecting out of context verses is a poor habit, and leads to narrow-minded thought. There is a time and place for all things, and there is a clear, holistic, body of scripture, mandating discipleship for all peoples. But, in any event... It is not society's place to seek vengeance, but I would argue that it is appropriate to seek justice-there is a clear difference. There is no scriptural admonition against killing, but, specifically, against murder(e.g., specifically, by definition: the taking of life for pleasure, or profit). Again, if we are able to make any decision regarding socially appropriate behavior, we are qualified to make every such decision. For a philosophical model to be valid, it has to meet a logical standard, otherwise, my feelings are as much a basis for decision-making as yours, and the process devolves into who's daddy is bigger & who's in control of the guns. In context of theology, God, as described by Judeo-Christian heritage, makes sense, He is logical and presents himself in a cohesive, understandable manner through His creation. The people were given the Law, and told to follow it; they didn't, and wanted a king. Sooo, we/they were given kings and judges, and nothing has changed that. As a Christian, certainly, the taking of life may, individually, be determined as "wrong", though only on an individual, personal, basis. We are not, however, a uniformly "Christian" society, nor can one Christian mandate the terms of forgiveness for another. In social context, then, life in prison rewards the violator with 1) the potential of release, and 2) requiring the survivors/victims to pay for the maintenance of the violator- unarguably a condition of slavery to the violator. Equally, I would ask, what is the place for persons, such as myself, in Christianity, who are capable, by nature, of entirely dispassionate assessment, and/or capable of taking life without either feelings of gratification or remorse(not that I never get mad, but largely, I look at situations for what they are)? If there is a purpose to all things, where does that fit within the Body? Are some, then,congenitally removed from salvation (predestination), or incapable of receiving grace (absence of free-will)? Also, if we accept, as we must, that there is a paradoxical corollary in life after the fall (time to live, time to die, etc., etc..), then we cannot reconcile absolute sanctity of life with direction against child sacrifice, protection of wives/children, etc., with living among those who choose to live in hedonism. Bear in mind, I'm not saying I'm correct, but I am looking for a cohesive element in a "pure sanctity" model. Edit: for LongIsland, and others who may not be Ju-Ch adherents, I am uncomfortable with convenient relativism, so I cannot say that all things are equally valid, but I would be in agreement that once an individual is pursing a reprobate mind, as it were, execution is no different than excising cancer- there is no element of evil(i.e., intentioned harm for benefit), it is dispassionate and preservational.
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    Discussion of Islam and medical care

    Quite right, which is why I added a post-script. However, it is also important to note that paternal primacy, with its attendant control of external communications, is an incredibly enabling factor in abuse. In fact, we note it as an indicator of abuse, in assessment. Is it always? Certainly not. But, it does bear careful consideration. I am not saying it is entirely an inappropriate norm, simply that we must have a logical, defined care-philosophy to both ensure patient well-being and appropriately adaptive norms. If the mandate is care within respective social models, without a defined SOC that is trans-cultural, we cannot assess or intervene in maladaptive behaviors or conditions. Attempting to isolate the issue in the context of First-world clients in egalatarian societies is an artifical argument.
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    Ovulation and Sex.

    Man, you must have had a really rough time in class. During clins, walking down a hall, there was a discussion about periods in progress, and I held up my hand, saying, "TMI!". I was promptly told, "Shutup! This is 3rd semester, you're one of the girls, by now...!":D
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    Discussion of Islam and medical care

    Pixie, in concept, I will agree with you, but with the observation that "cultural competency" is absolute relativism. Some cultural norms are maladaptive and destructive to self-actualization (i.e., the highest goal, for any of our patients/clients, whichever you prefer). If we mandate that we must enable "cultural models", vs. human development, then we must allow pedophilia, paternal primacy (the father may decide all matters, including life/death), and the "sacrifice" of unclean infants, i.e., those with epilepsy, Downs, diabetes, congenital malformations, etc.. Either some social models are more developed than others, and a social framework exclusive of sub-cultural accommodation is both necessary and appropriate, or might-makes-right. Edit: this is not an, "Islam vs. Helenism" post, rather that serious consideration needs to be given to what sub-cultural norms (Islamic, Christian, Vodun/Macumba, snake-cult, whatever) may be allowed without a return to the Law of Force.
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    Jury Duty - Could you condemn someone to death?

    Yes. It was not a "moral conflict", rather, taking out the garbage.
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    Jury Duty - Could you condemn someone to death?

    leslie, i'm sorry, this is false logic. whether humanist or some form of theology, it is necessary, at times, for society to remove strongly maladaptive members. if the posit is that we(as a society) do not have the right to take life, yet we pursue a policy that enables an individual without social conscience to kill(again), we have committed murder. or, in a further removed philosophical position, we have come to a social agreement that human sacrifice is acceptable, so that members of society do not have to make choices of life and death for another. btdt, in total agreement. humans make specific choices to cause harm, some by design, some as a result of limited consequential assessment ability. some animals do as well, but it is still predominantly a matter of securing self/environment, vs. sexual/psychological gratification.
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    Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

    :D That's why I made the observation. Many of the "pro-choice" folks are anti-war/anti-DP. With regard to philosophical coherence, the "pro-lifer" supporting "just" war and the DP is perfectly rational- sometimes killing is necessary for the protection of society. Even Shinto Bhuddists have a strong martial history... :cheers:
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    Jury Duty - Could you condemn someone to death?

    Eseentially, we "civilised" people wish to deny that a significant number of our fellows are predators, some highly proficient in their hunting capabilities. As dudette notes, inconsistency increases confidence by demonstrating minimal cost for significant (tho' largely emotional/sexual) rewards. "Criminal" is not a learned behavior, as much as an adopted life-outlook. It is all-encompassing, the criminal does not have moments where he/she "ponders" crime, it is thought about the way many of us view our careers and/or favorite hobby(-ies). Seb's stuff is always deep, and highly integrated. Bastiat Blogger: Muga-Mushin, Part 2: Machiavelli's Flood, Two-Factor Theory of Emotions, Bi-Strategic Controllers, Theory of Critical Moments When considering the implications, we should also consider that, by their best estimates, the FBI believes that there are roughly 17 prolific, undetected, serial killers in the US, at any given time. What this means is that some people have graduate degrees in predation. We are fortunate that they typically are extremely selfish, and lack the ability to organize, en masse. The most famous such individual, who did form a support group, obviously, is Adolph Hitler, whose entire command/control hierarchy consisted of sexual sadists, and more-than-"average" deviants. It is difficult to suggest that we love our families, much less other members of society, as long as we support and maintain Tookie Williamses, Larry Hoovers, etc.. The undiscussed/undisclosed fact of law enforcement is that there is an "agreement"- gangs don't institute open war, our Gvt & LE are willing to sacrifice a few thousand law abiding citizens, each year. Put a $100 bounty on any chunk of skin, or body, with verified gang tatoos(and show the tats on the evening news, every night), and see whence goes the crime rate.
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    Is an RN degree worth it ?

    Definitely worth it, especially given that you should be able to start farther into the program as an LPN. Most schools start you 2nd or 3rd semester, based on competency tests, and whether its a 2 or 4 year.
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