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    Another RN friend files bankruptcy

    I also wouldn't be paying his child support either. After all, it's not HER who they take to jail...and I would be if she had stopped paying it he would have very quickly found a job. There is nothing wrong with helping out...but no way would I put up with money being wasted on any gambling activity and I also stay on top of our bank accounts..this is another place where women mess up...they assume that their husband knows how to manage money and some women have no idea of what kind of financial shape their family is in.
  2. justme1972

    Shocking Baby Birth

    They had an episode on Nip/Tuck that was like that. In a very sick, only-another-nurse-would-understand way, it was freaking hysterical.
  3. justme1972

    Are YOU a closet Pen Addict?

    my name is beth...and i'm an office supply-a-holic. feels good to finally say it! admitting it is the first step toward recovery! i secretly visit the office supply section of every store i am in, and i have a small stash in my closet of notebooks, folders, every pen/color/ink imaginable, cool staplers, organizers, highlighers. i think it started in my childhood. my mommy never let me pick out my own school supplies...and i never got over it!!!! ok, ok...yeah..i'm exaggerating...but not by much.
  4. With all of the stereotyping of how those in the nursing profession are overweight, I think all of us could examine as to why. Even if someone is thin now, is no guarantee that they will stay that way. Just throwing this out there...what does everyone think the real reason is? Sitting around in between rounds, working night vs day shift, all of the "goodies" that get brought in, working long shifts and scarfing down bites when you can get them in (and not always with healthy choices). Seriously...what does everyone think it is?? I would like to see people (both overweight and not) answer this OBJECTIVELY.
  5. Universal healthcare is NOT supported by the majority in this country and that is why it will never pass...at least not in this or the next few administrations until the gov't gets costs under control. It's a nice idea, but it tends to only work in countries that are spread out in population and doesn't have the me me me mentality like the USA has. People are also not going to want to pay the tax rate that comes along with it. It will be more than double of what we are paying now.
  6. i also mentioned in that same post where i stated my own weight that there was no guarantee that i would remain at this weight...a critical detail that you conveniently left out. i understand that sometimes other health issues causes someone to be overweight. i saw this happened with a friend of mine who enjoyed a size 2 status most of her life until she was diagnosed with diabeties. now, i don't know that much about diabeties, mainly because we cover that in second year. i did watch her gain over twice her regular weight once she started insulin therapy. people that have knee problems, have chronic pain, can find exercise difficult and if they were able to exercise before and can't now, then that may be the cause of their weight problem. i don't go around asking people these questions because it's rude. however, considering that i would like to think that everyone in this board is either an educated professional or who is inspired to be one, we could discuss these issues objectively. if every time someone posted a question that the first thing that was posted was "mind your own business", then this wouldn't be a very active board, now would it? keep in mind that what caused this person's handicap that i observed is 100% irrelevant to my question...it's the fact that she has one that has obviously impaired her mobility and i am not alone, from the other people that have kindly posted here as well, that wonders how she will be able to function. i am not ignorant to the vast career opportunities that an rn can have after they have received their license that are non-bedside related that can even be performed from a wheelchair if the need arises. but before one can get a degree, you have to finish school. you have to complete clinical rotations in a host of other healthcare areas and demonstrate that you can perform all of the required tasks before they will hand you the degree that permits you sit for the nclex. what if a student had a nerve condition that caused her to shake her hands uncontrollably and she could not steady them enough to insert an iv or give injections or perform a sterile foley procedure? what if someone's vision was impaired just enough to where they could not accurately read medication bottles or other documents...there are people that are blind that finish college degrees all the time...however, can these people perform bedside nursing where accurate vision is a necessity to not only be able to distribute medication but to do an accurate assessment on your patient? i can write a book on different scenerios. sorry i didn't write my title to the thread to your satisfaction. however, i do feel that too many posters are focusing on the negative and personally attacking me, once again, instead of just simply answering my question. it makes me wonder if the same people doing the attacking are going to have the same judgemental attitude in actual nursing practice and jumping to conclusions and looking at a situation in a negative light instead of trying to find the silver lining. that is the difference between people that focus on the problem instead of focusing on the solution.
  7. You have obviously missed the entire point of the original post. Thankfully, those that have been on the board for awhile "get it" and that is all that matters to me. I would also like to point out to you for the FOURTH time, that I never once said she couldn't perform the job because of her weight...that was an ASSUMPTION that you made all by yourself. You also still haven't offered a single suggestion of how that this person, who HAS MOBILITY ISSUES, can work a cardiac floor. But I fully understand that it's easier to attack the poster than to just simply answer the question.
  8. thank you!!!! :yeah::yeah: if i was at your house i would give you a huge hug!! this is exactly what i was trying to say. i only mentioned her age/weight/apparent handicap observations just to give others more information so that they may answer my question. i don't give a flip about what someone weighs or how old they are if they can do the job. to me it's 100% irrelevant. my question is can she do the job.
  9. Because it's against the law if you are the driver of a car and a handicap sticker is for someone else, to park in handicap. She was the only one driving the vehicle that day, and she parked it in handicap and mentioned this when they were checking to see which students had parked in the wrong area. Please note (because people are forgetting this) I never stated that she shouldn't be permitted to do bedside nursing just because of a handicap, I only came to this conclusion when she mentioned that she was going to have trouble walking down a hill and across a parking lot...this is a very, very large hospital with long corridors. My concern, was that I thought being mobile was a requirement of a bedside nurse. I was asking others how someone that apparently had trouble walking could do bedside nursing, especially on a cardiac floor. Only a couple of posters had the answer...that maybe her "handicap" was temporary and not permanent (something that I hadn't considered) and that there are jobs such as acute care, etc...that she could do if the beds are close together. To me, those are easy accomodations once someone is licensed...I don't see how someone can get through their final year of clinical rotations and have limited mobility.
  10. You got a "whiff" because you were looking for something negative in my post. If you had bothered to read it carefully, my concern was how someone could PERFORM the job with an obvious handicap that may or may not have anything to do with their weight. The only reason I even mentioned her weight is because SOME people with significant weight issues do have trouble with mobility. I was simply trying to give everyone as much information as possible so they could answer my question accurately. You know what I noticed about your posts? NOT ONCE did you have a SINGLE suggestion of how someone that can't hardly walk that does not have their RN yet, can work in bedside nursing. It's alot easier to rant and complain that it is to offer a solution and an ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. I have posted until I am blue in the face that I have no idea of what this woman's disability is or if it is even permanent. All I know is that she mentioned to the CLASS that she was concerned about being able to walk downhill and across a parking lot. Maybe if I need to be selfish and only be concerned about myself, maybe I shouldn't be a nurse at all? After all, God forbid if I go into someone's room and start asking them personal questions about their health, family structure, their cultural or religious beliefs as related to their care or diet or any special accomodations that they need...I mean, how dare me do anything but read the chart, follow doctor's orders and just start shoving meds down their mouth and not give a flip about how their day is going...I mean, it's not my problem, right? THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA. There was a video this week of some poor old man that was hit by a hit-and-run driver that is now paralyzed from the neck down. He was surrounded by people that focused on themselves rather than him...and they left him in the road with traffic speeding around him like he was soon-to-be road kill. The day I stop caring about others, is the day I will quit school or quit my job and probably stop going to church and everything else that I do for others in my community...because God forbid if I was concerned about anyone but myself.
  11. Her exact disability was not discussed, but the fact that she was disabled enough to have a handicap sticker was. On the first day, a security guard came and said they were going to tow some of us that were not parked in employee parking. This woman spoke up and said, "I have a handicap parking sticker, do I have to move?"..we all heard her...and the instructor said no, which is her right if she has the sticker. So later they told us we were going to walk to another building...it was quiet while the instructor was giving instructions as to where we were going, so all of use heard this woman say, "Well, how far is it?" I was sitting there thinking (but not saying), "What difference does it make?" Then I turned around and noticed it was the same woman who had the handicap parking sticker. She was concerned about walking across the hospital campus and the instructor even offered to get her a shuttle bus to take her there...she said she could "probably make it" down the hill but would need security or a shuttle to take her back up. The next day I found out she was going to be on a cardiac floor when they were doing introductions. She does "huff and puff" alot when she walks around even in an air-conditioned building where we are not doing anything more than listening to lecture...that is why I began wondering how she was going to meet the physical demands of the job that requires 12-hour shifts 3 days per week.
  12. See, this is where you made an incorrect assumption. Notice that I didn't have anywhere in my OP my age???? People that have seen me post know that I am in my late 30's. I refer to anyone that is 10 years older than me, as older. Just like I would refer to someone that is 10 years or more my junior, as younger. Along that same token, I refer to people over the age of 65 a senior citizen, because frankly, 55 seems to young and the term "elderly" for me, has visions of someone sitting in a rocking chair knitting. That is just my way of describing people. If you research my posts, someone posted a thread about "nurses being past their prime"...I was one of the first people to post and ADVOCATE that nurses that have been around "since the bricks were sand" in a hospital, be treated with respect...you can't replace that type of experience and I would be livid if I worked in a hospital where it seemed they were trying to ship those nearing retirement age out. The entire point of my original point is where do you draw the line with accomodating someone's handicap without putting a patient's life at risk? The ADA specifically states that an employer must make "reasonable" accomodations...not heroic cost-ineffective, patients-being-put-at-risk accomodations, but "reasonable" accomodations. I never stated that this woman shouldn't be permitted to be a nurse, I just didn't understand HOW someone with her limitations could be an effective one in a bedside setting. Granted, I don't know exactly what this woman's handicap is...I don't feel that it's appropriate to ask anyone that question. However, walking seems to be one of the henderances. If this woman was an already licensed RN (which she isn't), then I can easily see how an RN can teach school, be a case worker or a host of other jobs in a hospital...you can do these jobs if you are in a wheelchair. But she didn't apply for one of those jobs...she applied for bedside nursing. I'll be on an entirely different floor from her, so I won't get the opportunity to see her work. However, it was something I was very curious about. I didn't go to a special effort to seek out this woman's disability or anything like that...this was something that was discussed in front of the entire group.
  13. Ok...I'm going to ask the mods to close the thread. This was a question where I was ASKING how someone that couldn't walk across the parking lot and down a hill could be a bedside nurse in a large hospital. So far only about two people actually answered my question. Many people mention the age group of others when we are posting...that was just FYI, in no way did my original post say a SINGLE negative thing about her age. I never stated that anyone who is overweight cannot be an effective nurse either, however, obesity is considered a disease and it DOES contribute to a host of health problems such as back problems, knee problems, foot problems, diabetes, etc. Considering this woman is overweight it was a REASONABLE observation that this may have attributed to her handicap since walking distances seemed to be her issue. No, I didn't bother to do a health history on her, I thought it was going to be rude to ask. I even stated in my OP for those to EDUCATE me on HOW she could work in a hospital with an obvious handicap. I personally would not want a nurse to be on my floor as a cardiac patient if they had trouble walking REGARDLESS of their age or weight. Thanks to those that actually answered my question.
  14. I don't mean to sound harsh either, but this is a forum where we should be able to ask questions about anything, as long as they are asked honestly and respectfully. I wanted to use this opportunity to LEARN about how people like this can work in a hospital...because how do you know that me or you won't go out today and get hit by a car and not be able to walk well? I had always thought bedside nursing was over if you could not at least walk with some degree of stamina. I never once said in my post that her weight or her age ALONE hendered her from being able to do her job. In fact, I specifically stated that if you go back and re-read my post. I was basing my post NOT on her weight or age but by my observation of her behavior.
  15. yes, this is exactly what i was trying to say. i will admit, i never considered that she may have a recent, temporary health problem such as a surgery, etc and i assumed it was a permanent disability. i only mentioned her weight because i wondered if it was a contributing factor of her disability (such as some people who has a back or knees that give out because of the weight...but i know this isn't a "given" just because someone is overweight). i mentioned her age as "older" because she's older than me. i am a huge proponent of senior nurses being very, very valuable on the job...you can't replace that kind of experience. what raised my eyebrow is i thought, "if she can't walk across a parking lot and down a hill, how is she going to be able to keep the physical demands of a job such as nursing?" my physical that i had at this hospital was simply vitals, weight, drug test, etc. i was never asked to lift anything, only if i had any "problems completing the tasks of the job." i never considered the icu and i know that the cardiac floor at this hospital has an acute care area where you are only assigned one or two patients per shift. i was just curious at what others thought.