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2 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

So, redistribution of wealth is the liberal plan.

This term gets thrown around a lot, but what exactly are you referring to?

Isn't requiring that businesses pay their employees a 'redistribution of wealth'? 

Over the last 45 years or so, nearly all the increased wealth due to economic growth has gone to the top 10%, and an ever increasing amount of our country's total wealth has been concentrating at the top, how is that not a "redistribution of wealth"?

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2 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

I know you are well versed in how to use the Internet, so I will not insult you by spoon feeding you information.

Again, if you are TRULY interested in the problem, check out the platforms of Sanders and Warren.

If you are not TRULY interested, please continue the spin.

 

To be fair he probably knows the Democrats ideas, but he was asking you  which of those ideas you think will fix the problem.  A reasonable discussion question as we don't always agree 100% on the agenda of the party we will vote for.  It wouldn't be spoon feeding him to offer what you think will work.  He's already offered examples of what he thinks doesn't work.

 At least that's how I took it.  

 

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19 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

There are two reasons for this, the first is that your chance of escaping poverty in Seattle and the other 'liberal' cities you've mentioned is 2 to 3 times better than in traditional republican strongholds.  I don't think helping people escape poverty is a goal worthy of criticism.  

Not surprisingly, no one else has asked but I feel I must...woukd you mind providing a source for this?

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3 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I wonder then what is driving increasing homelessness in the beloved happy place of Denmark?

http://cphpost.dk/news/spike-in-young-homeless-people-in-denmark.html

Not sure why you would ask when it clearly states that certain young people can't afford housing.

Still the article mentions of socialist countries like Norway, Finland and Sweden that have seen their homelessness drop due to their attention to housing moreso than Denmark.  

They aren't paradise by no means, but they do try and seem to care.

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21 minutes ago, Tweety said:

 It sources the US Census as did the artel that named California #1 in poverty rates.  Mississippi is first on this list.  I wonder if it's a difference in calculations.

The link I posted earlier explained how CA is #1.  Sorry you missed it.

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10 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Here's an interesting article that speaks of poverty.  It sources the US Census as did the artel that named California #1 in poverty rates.  Mississippi is first on this list.  I wonder if it's a difference in calculations.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/states-with-the-highest-poverty-rates-in-the-us

Experts in this article below say Californias problem is housing.  Someone in SF making $100,000 would probably be poverty level. 

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-california-poverty-rate-20180913-htmlstory.html

California is the most populous state with the largest number of people experiencing homelessness. (Remember that people living at missions and shelters, in cars, RVs and campers are counted as homeless)

The states with the highest percentage of people living in poverty are less populated. These are in order of highest poverty are Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Tennesee. (I know hundreds of people in two states who are FROM Mississippi.)

 

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11 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Not sure why you would ask when it clearly states that certain young people can't afford housing.

The question was to see how the poster who claims capitalism is the cause of homelessness would reconcile that with the claims of the same poster who frequently claims Denmark is indeed a paradise, but is also experiencing increased homelessness.

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38 minutes ago, Tweety said:

To be fair he probably knows the Democrats ideas, but he was asking you  which of those ideas you think will fix the problem.  A reasonable discussion question as we don't always agree 100% on the agenda of the party we will vote for.  It wouldn't be spoon feeding him to offer what you think will work.  He's already offered examples of what he thinks doesn't work.

 At least that's how I took it.  

 

Good point. 

I would be interested in what he thinks might work to address some of these social issues. It's relatively easy to be a naysayer. That has been the position of congressional Republicans since 2010. Let's hear some ideas from our conservative friends. 

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

“Those are a number of the "liberal" proposals which would serve to decrease income and wealth disparity”

Those are your words.  If youre decreasing the income of some to increase benefits for others, wealth redistribution seems like a great description.

 

What's your point? I hope that your point is that income and wealth redistribution to wealthy = good  and income and wealth redistribution to poor and working class = bad, because that seems to be the trend of your remarks. 

You asked a question and then simply criticized the response with convoluted logic.  Why not throw out one of the conservative proposals to decrease wealth disparity or homelessness or to improve access to healthcare for similar treatmentand discussion?

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9 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

What's your point? I hope that your point is that income and wealth redistribution to wealthy = good  and income and wealth redistribution to poor and working class = bad, because that seems to be the trend of your remarks. 

You asked a question and then simply criticized the response with convoluted logic.  Why not throw out one of the conservative proposals to decrease wealth disparity or homelessness or to improve access to healthcare for similar treatmentand discussion?

I did that just a few days ago.   It’s pretty simple.  A rolling economy and low unemployment is the best way to decrease wealth disparity.  Bring the poor up, not the rich down.

 

 

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