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So glad that several Democrats have put ideas for health insurance.

From NPR:

Employees Start To Feel The Squeeze Of High-Deductible Health Plans

Didn't Trump promise beautiful health insurance as part of his 2016 campaign?

Yet, Americans have been given nothing but deafening silence by Republicans on health insurance overall.

Yep. Silence.

At least Democrats come to the table with ideas.

No stonewalling.

No silence.

Ideas.

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On 5/3/2019 at 1:15 PM, Lil Nel said:

So glad that several Democrats have put ideas for health insurance.

From NPR:

Employees Start To Feel The Squeeze Of High-Deductible Health Plans

Didn't Trump promise beautiful health insurance as part of his 2016 campaign?

Yet, Americans have been given nothing but deafening silence by Republicans on health insurance overall.

Yep. Silence.

At least Democrats come to the table with ideas.

No stonewalling.

No silence.

Ideas.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/05/03/719519579/employees-start-to-feel-the-squeeze-of-high-deductible-health-plans  

Was just talking about this the other day.  I was lucky in that my employer wrote off the $2K deductible since I had surgery where I worked but still ended up paying at least $2k more out of pocket to the surgeons, anesthesiologist and for equipment.  When I started work  40 years ago the cost would have been zero, as well as the premium was 100% paid by the employer.  I was the hospital for several days when I was 19 and had insurance through my job and paid zero.   Almost like having "free" healthcare. 

A coworker's MD ordered a colonoscopy for some symptoms she was having and our insurance company told her she wasn't covered for those symptoms since she was under 50.  She can't afford the thousands it would cost and is foregoing a recommended test. Hope she's okay.

It's not the poor and the rich that need relief in healthcare, it's the middle working class that don't qualify for any assistance, like myself.  People don't realize until they really need it our crappy having insurance really is.

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A friend whose mother died of breast cancer, her sister and aunt were treated for it, and then less than two years later her sister had a tumor in her other breast.

It was 1995 and she was in her early forties. She requested a mammogram and her doctor agreed. She had breast cancer. After waiting for authorization she was denied by the insurance company. She paid the $80.00 for a screening mammogram at a clinic. She had breast cancer.

This woman choose bilateral mastectomies as her surgeon suggested. The insurance paid for that, but with their usual "authorization waits" Even before she recovered she sued the PacifiCare insurance company our hospital's employees had. She sued for the cost of the life saving mammogram. The struggle to get to court went on for years. In 1999 they finally sent her an $80.00 with a short letter.

Now she is a tall beautiful, elegant woman nearly seventy year old. 

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Excellent piece in today's NY Times, highlighting the racial disparities in healthcare, between Whites and Blacks, as related to maternal deaths.

Seems like Elizabeth Warren's idea of giving a monetary incentive for better outcomes in this area is spot-on.

What is Trump proposing?

Did I miss something?

No.

Just more silence.

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7 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

President Trump’s early fundraising numbersshow he not only has a stockpile of cash -- raising over $30 million in the first quarter -- but is doing particularly well among one donor demographic: women.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-raising-big-bucks-from-women-donors

From the same article 

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But whether the fundraising figures indicate women are turning for Trump remains to be seen. In the latest Fox News poll, Trump faced a steep disapproval from women, with 59 percent saying they disapprove of his performance in office compared with 38 percent who approve. Among white women as well, the president’s numbers are underwater. Fifty-two percent of white women disapprove of the job he’s doing as president, while 45 percent approve.

So while some are willing to put money into his campaign seems to me he has a lot of work to do.  I imagine some of them are pro-life women like my aunt.  It's the one issue that keeps her supporting Trump despite all.  She could never vote for a baby murderer.

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12 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

President Trump’s early fundraising numbersshow he not only has a stockpile of cash -- raising over $30 million in the first quarter -- but is doing particularly well among one donor demographic: women.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-raising-big-bucks-from-women-donors

As I have stated before, it is a big mistake to equate fundraising, with victory.

Again, the Koch brothers had piles of cash that they used to try and defeat Obama, and it didn't work.

All that money wasted, as Obama sailed to victory.

Who watches political ads?

I haven't seen one in years and years, as I have no television.

I don't hear them on radio, as I only listen to public radio.

I do go for bumper stickers, as I have used them since Clinton/Gore.

Trump, McConnell, Bevin, et al, can spend whatever they want.

I won't vote for any of them.

But the money being pumped into the economy is nice!

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7 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Who watches political ads?

I don't have cable or watch TV either (I do watch commercial free Netflix and Amazon) but I they were relentless as I saw them on patient's TVs, the gym everywhere.  I wouldn't underestimate them.  My best friend that loves politics said that Republican Rick Scott had very effective ads that probably propelled him to victory over the established Democrat Senator whom he portrayed as someone that really did nothing in his many years in politics.  Also the Republican governor that won had some very effective ads against the challenger bringing to light an investigation against him by the state (of which he was exonerated) and cast some doubt and they might have swung things his way.  Both of these republicans barely won.

I wouldn't underestimate their power.  It was the ads that kept the idea that Clinton was a crook that deserved to be locked up.

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

I don't have cable or watch TV either (I do watch commercial free Netflix and Amazon) but I they were relentless as I saw them on patient's TVs, the gym everywhere.  I wouldn't underestimate them.  My best friend that loves politics said that Republican Rick Scott had very effective ads that probably propelled him to victory over the established Democrat Senator whom he portrayed as someone that really did nothing in his many years in politics.  Also the Republican governor that won had some very effective ads against the challenger bringing to light an investigation against him by the state (of which he was exonerated) and cast some doubt and they might have swung things his way.  Both of these republicans barely won.

I wouldn't underestimate their power.  It was the ads that kept the idea that Clinton was a crook that deserved to be locked up.

Millions of voters are swayed by slick advertising.  

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9 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

 

Who watches political ads?

I don't hear them on radio, as I only listen to public radio.

But the money being pumped into the economy is nice!

 

Living in a west coast state with only 11 electoral votes, we are spared the majority of presidential ads.

i have wondered how much the millions that purportedly go to add to the economy. And I’m a suspicious as to whether monies get siphoned off for personal enrichment.

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5 hours ago, Tweety said:

I don't have cable or watch TV either (I do watch commercial free Netflix and Amazon) but I they were relentless as I saw them on patient's TVs, the gym everywhere.  I wouldn't underestimate them.  My best friend that loves politics said that Republican Rick Scott had very effective ads that probably propelled him to victory over the established Democrat Senator whom he portrayed as someone that really did nothing in his many years in politics.  Also the Republican governor that won had some very effective ads against the challenger bringing to light an investigation against him by the state (of which he was exonerated) and cast some doubt and they might have swung things his way.  Both of these republicans barely won.

I wouldn't underestimate their power.  It was the ads that kept the idea that Clinton was a crook that deserved to be locked up.

Was it the ads, or Trump's campaign pep rallies that gave birth to that notion, and kept it alive?

I would argue it was the latter.

Remember, those pep rallies were covered in the media.

 

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