Jump to content
luv2 luv2 (Member)

President Trump National Scandal

Politics   (231,639 Views 1,310 Comments)
8,859 Visitors; 707 Posts
If you find this topic helpful leave a comment.

You are reading page 94 of President Trump National Scandal. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

Did President Trump-Pence administration drop the ball?

  1. 1. Did President Trump-Pence administration drop the ball?

    • Yes
      15
    • No
      2

17 members have participated

  • Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.
  • Poll closes on 03/02/2022 at 05:42 PM
1 minute ago, Lil Nel said:

The anti-Fauci movement has been around for quite a while.

I appreciate his 'not back down' attitude.

Especially when facing off against a moron like Trump, and Rand Paul, TBI not withstanding.

Btw-Paul's home base of Bowling Green, is a 'hot spot' in KY.

He must be so proud!

I know but the "you're answer is not appropriate" and Rand Paul are recent and that's what I'm talking about.  

Good for him for being resilient.  I'm not against that.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Lil Nel said:

If Rand Paul insults you, Tweety, it really is meaningless.

He is clearly suffering from a TBI.

 

I've loathed that man over a decade, so it has nothing to do with his TBI.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I've loathed that man over a decade, so it has nothing to do with his TBI.

True enough.

I don't like him either.

But before his neighbor beat the crap out of him, Paul occasionally made comments that reflected some intelligence.

That is no longer the case.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Yep, they went after the virus early and did an amazing job.  We missed that opportunity.

Of course being a communist county the populace is obviously more compliant that spoiled mouthy Americans.

Vietnam has a strong and vibrant economy.  They've practically eliminated "extreme poverty".  I saw that when I visited.  They've experienced near double digit growth for a long time.  They will rebound nicely. 

But they are easing restrictions even though it hasn't disappeared and perhaps it's the way the are reporting their cases a being "zero" for a month.  They should take pride in no domestically transmitted cases.  If a communist country without real free press is to be trusted that is.  

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vietnam/vietnam-reports-24-new-coronavirus-cases-all-imported-cases-pass-300-idUSKBN22R03R

I think Vietnam's success proves that social distancing and quarantine works.

Watching Americans crowd beaches and bars, and open businesses illegally and show up at state houses armed like military personnel, just has me shaking my head, looking at the dumb asses.

Good grief!

Vietnam and New Zealand can do this.

But the US is incapable.

I understand that neither country suffers from having a moron at the helm, unlike the US.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Trump continues today, to repeat his moronic and dangerous statement: The virus will disappear.

No, Dorothy. You can't click your heels three times and make it go away.

Trump remains a clear and present danger to this country.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

I've never said "isnt really that bad". 

Yes, we heard from Rick Bright, and everyday we hear from Fauci, who has been wrong several times.  Why didn't we hear from experts who have another point of view?  For example, the Stanford researcher whose article I posted weeks ago.

I still stand by that.  A shortage of ppe isnt what I meant by being overwhelmed.  Your example is incorrect anyway.  Colorado has a great website with interesting stats that are updated everyday.  One question it asks hospitals to report is if they expect to be short of ppe in the next week.  The number each day is usually 2-3 hospitals in the state say yes.

Approximately 350 vents are in use out of a little more them 1000 in the state.  At its peak it was around 500.

We have the highest death rate west of the Mississippi.   But, have never been overwhelmed.

Yes, your have grossly misunderstood.  I have never said mitigation is unnecessary. 

If I remember right, the Stanford researcher article you're referring to was that infection rates have been higher than previously thought, how do you feel that means this isn't as bad as previously thought?

If being 'overwhelmed' isn't based on capability to appropriately care for patients then what are you basing that on?

As of the middle of April, there were 19 hospitals that were reporting a less-than-one-week supply of PPE, and that's based on "crisis capacity" standards which already involves utilizing PPE in ineffective ways.  I'm not sure how when a hospital reverts to 'crisis capacity' procedures that this doesn't mean they are overwhelmed.

While many hospitals were overwhelmed at least by the CDC's and OSHA's definitions, you could argue that many hospitals were pushed thin but not over the edge, and that's with mitigation efforts, so that means we don't need mitigation efforts because the goal is to more thoroughly overwhelm hospitals?

What level of over-capacity should we be aiming for?  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, MunoRN said:

If I remember right, the Stanford researcher article you're referring to was that infection rates have been higher than previously thought, how do you feel that means this isn't as bad as previously thought?

Yes, so that means even less percentage of people then first thought are getting sick and dying.  So, I guess it's not as bad as previously thought.

You and a few others seem to be stuck on me saying covid-19 isnt that bad. It seems the context in which I discuss this gets lost.

Anytime I point out statistics or facts that might suggest "it's not that bad", it's in the context of a discussion about the timing of  relaxing the restrictions being placed on our society.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, MunoRN said:

While many hospitals were overwhelmed at least by the CDC's and OSHA's definitions, you could argue that many hospitals were pushed thin but not over the edge, and that's with mitigation efforts, so that means we don't need mitigation efforts because the goal is to more thoroughly overwhelm hospitals?

How many times do I need to say that I'm not a proponent of completely getting rid of mitigation efforts?  

7 hours ago, MunoRN said:

What level of over-capacity should we be aiming for?  

What level of unemployment and economic recession should we be aiming for?  

Edited by Lucylu71

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, Tweety said:

There is no answer and this always trumps every argument over easing restrictions and I really tired of it and won't answer. 

You are agreeing with Trump people's lives do not matter as long the money is being made.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Governor Beshear talks about the importance of outdoor exercise DAILY during his briefings.

He encourages Kentuckians to go for a walk or run every single press briefing.

He also talks about using social media to stay connected.

May be Governor DeSantis doesn't do those things, but Beshear always has, from day one.

We also have the Team Kentucky Fund, which is made up of private donations, and has more than $3 million in the coffers.

Eligible Kentuckians can receive up to $1000. All you have to do is show that your income has dropped by 50% due to CVirus.

There are not many times I am proud of this state, but Kentucky is doing a great job, compared to many other states, of caring for residents.

Again, why should Fauci leave?

He is doing a good job.

It is the failing, lying Trump who needs to go!

Besides, Dr. Fauci doesn't appear to be the kind who backs down from a fight.

Kudos to him!

I'm sure those losing their jobs and businesses are comforted by the advice to go for walks and stay connected on social media.

I'm interested on your take of your governor getting rid of travel restrictions?  It seems to go against your belief that strict policies should be in place until we have a cure or vaccine.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, luv2 said:

You are agreeing with Trump people's lives do not matter as long the money is being made.

That’s not what he said and you know it. The issues are complex and cannot be reduced to this kind of black-and-white oversimplification. The reality is that the only completely risk-free safety is death. To be alive is to face risk to that life. Let’s stop with the litmus testing, already.

End of de-rail. Carry on ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

How many times do I need to say that I'm not a proponent of completely getting rid of mitigation efforts?  

What level of unemployment and economic recession should we be aiming for?  

Given that unemployment and economic recession aren't the actual goals of the disease mitigation efforts and strategies, your question seems confused.  But then, that is the flawed reasoning that Trump and other liars count upon in this era of conmen, grifters and charlatans. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
×

This site uses cookies. By using this site, you consent to the placement of these cookies. Read our Privacy, Cookies, and Terms of Service Policies to learn more.