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From today's WaPo:

Nurses Returned To The WH To Read The Names Of Colleagues Killed By Coronavirus

Look at the accompanying photographs.

Rows of white shoes.

No Confederate flags.

No AR-15s on display.

Seems like Trumpsters could learn something from protesting nurses.

Oh, wait.

Trumpsters think protesting nurses are "fake," and "strippers."

Never mind.

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Rand Paul to Fauci

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"I think we ought to have a little bit of humility in our belief that we know what’s best for the economy," Paul said Tuesday during a Senate coronavirus response oversight hearing. "And as much as I respect you, Dr. Fauci, I don’t think you’re the end-all. I don’t think you’re the one person that gets to make a decision."

I'm going to give Rand Paul the benefit of the doubt because a lot of places that had dire predictions dodged a bullet and did well.  Even New York faired better than worst case scenario.

But isn't that precisely because people listened to Fauci and scientists and went in quarantine and other measures?

I also understand that Facui is not an economist and it really isn't his decision to make economic decisions.  This isn't what he was saying.  He was saying if economies open up in a poor fashion at the wrong time it could be detrimental. 

  The total arrogance of Rand Paul's lack of respect for with the preface "as much as I respect you"...attitude really is a bit nauseating.   A man whom didn't even quarantine during his bought with Covid.  

Perhaps though I'm jaded because I really really despise Rand Paul.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-dont-think-youre-the-end-all-rand-paul-casts-doubt-on-faucis-coronavirus-predictions/ar-BB13YU4j

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11 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Rand Paul to Fauci

I'm going to give Rand Paul the benefit of the doubt because a lot of places that had dire predictions dodged a bullet and did well.  Even New York faired better than worst case scenario.

But isn't that precisely because people listened to Fauci and scientists and went in quarantine and other measures?

I also understand that Facui is not an economist and it really isn't his decision to make economic decisions.  This isn't what he was saying.  He was saying if economies open up in a poor fashion at the wrong time it could be detrimental. 

  The total arrogance of Rand Paul's lack of respect for with the preface "as much as I respect you"...attitude really is a bit nauseating.   A man whom didn't even quarantine during his bought with Covid.  

Perhaps though I'm jaded because I really really despise Rand Paul.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-dont-think-youre-the-end-all-rand-paul-casts-doubt-on-faucis-coronavirus-predictions/ar-BB13YU4j

No need to give Rand Paul the benefit of the doubt, Tweety.

He was always bit off the wall, but since he was assaulted by his neighbor, I believe he suffered a TBI.

His statements and positions since that time, are more crazy than usual.

While he was attempting to discredit Dr. Fauci on behalf of his leader, DJT, he said school children in this country must go back to in-person class rooms by the fall.

Paul is totally ignoring the fact that a 10-year-old boy in his home state, is on a ventilator, the result of CVirus.

This pandemic is not under control, no matter what the eye surgeon says.

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20 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

No need to give Rand Paul the benefit of the doubt, Tweety.

He was always bit off the wall, but since he was assaulted by his neighbor, I believe he suffered a TBI.

His statements and positions since that time, are more crazy than usual.

While he was attempting to discredit Dr. Fauci on behalf of his leader, DJT, he said school children in this country must go back to in-person class rooms by the fall.

Paul is totally ignoring the fact that a 10-year-old boy in his home state, is on a ventilator, the result of CVirus.

This pandemic is not under control, no matter what the eye surgeon says.

We've had more then one child on a vent just in my hospital over the last 7- 8 weeks. Theyve all had other chronic medical conditions as well.  How about the 10 year old that you speak of?  What's his background?  

What do you think of a teenager suicide attempt who was a previously happy well adjusted teen who was getting straight A's, participated in three sports and theatre.  All her outlets were taken away and her social circles cut off.  No other big changes in her life.  Was not completing any of her online learning assignments since schools were closed.

The virus has proven to effect children and the young and healthy much less.  The collateral damage is going to be worse if we dont transition out of what we are doing right now.

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3 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

We've had more then one child on a vent just in my hospital over the last 7- 8 weeks. Theyve all had other chronic medical conditions as well.  How about the 10 year old that you speak of?  What's his background?  

What do you think of a teenager suicide attempt who was a previously happy well adjusted teen who was getting straight A's, participated in three sports and theatre.  All her outlets were taken away and her social circles cut off.  No other big changes in her life.  Was not completing any of her online learning assignments since schools were closed.

The virus has proven to effect children and the young and healthy much less.  The collateral damage is going to be worse if we dont transition out of what we are doing right now.

Of course all teen suicide is a horrible. 

Panic is a very real experience in the USA right now.  The president is encouraging economic panic. Feelings of panic lead people to make illogical choices and decisions with little regard for known or anticipated consequences. We already are transitioning out of what we've been doing. 

We'll all get to observe the consequences. 80,000 and counting deaths with 1.3 million confirmed cases and no real ability to properly test or trace contacts.  We're also hoping that thoughts and prayers work better in this situation than it does with gun violence. 

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6 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

We've had more then one child on a vent just in my hospital over the last 7- 8 weeks. Theyve all had other chronic medical conditions as well.  How about the 10 year old that you speak of?  What's his background?  

What do you think of a teenager suicide attempt who was a previously happy well adjusted teen who was getting straight A's, participated in three sports and theatre.  All her outlets were taken away and her social circles cut off.  No other big changes in her life.  Was not completing any of her online learning assignments since schools were closed.

The virus has proven to effect children and the young and healthy much less.  The collateral damage is going to be worse if we dont transition out of what we are doing right now.

I have no idea what you are referring to.

Children in this country commit suicide on a regular basis.

I have read about kids as young as 9-years-old, killing themselves over being bullied at school.

Until there is a vaccine, or effective treatments, there will continue to be anxiety among children and adults.

No medical information has been released on the 10-year-old or teenager now with inflammatory disease from CVirus.

Gee.

How did kids and adults cope during polio epidemic?

I am sure stress levels were very high then too.

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Of course all teen suicide is a horrible. 

Panic is a very real experience in the USA right now.  The president is encouraging economic panic. Feelings of panic lead people to make illogical choices and decisions with little regard for known or anticipated consequences. We already are transitioning out of what we've been doing. 

We'll all get to observe the consequences. 80,000 and counting deaths with 1.3 million confirmed cases and no real ability to properly test or trace contacts.  We're also hoping that thoughts and prayers work better in this situation than it does with gun violence. 

The economic panic is occurring on it's own.  That's what happens when people lose their jobs and businesses.  

What has exacerbated it all is that people bought into "stay at home" because it was going to cause a few million deaths, and we couldn't overwhelm the healthcare system.

Although we still have more to learn, we know a lot more about the disease. And, it was never going to kill millions, and except for a few outliers the healthcare system was never overwhelmed.  Governors in some places keep moving the goalposts.  That is encouraging economic panic.

I heard a headline today that LA is going to extend stay at home for three months.  Sure.  That place will burn to the ground before that happens.

I said two months ago that lockdown wasnt sustainable for very long as people weren't just going to sit around and watch their businesses go down the drain and the economy tank.  We're seeing evidence of that. 

 

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Well, well.

That TX hairdresser, who opened her salon illegally because she just wanted to "feed" her children?

She applied for, and received a $18,000 small business loan.

She also applied for UI.

In NY Post article, she said she was "confused" when small business loan money "appeared" in her account with "no explanation."

Gee.

My stimulus appeared in my account with no explanation, but because I follow the news, I knew what it was.

My suspicion all along was that this hairdresser is nothing more than a rabid right-winger, which is why Senator Cruz went to her for a haircut.

 

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4 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Well, well.

That TX hairdresser, who opened her salon illegally because she just wanted to "feed" her children?

She applied for, and received a $18,000 small business loan.

She also applied for UI.

In NY Post article, she said she was "confused" when small business loan money "appeared" in her account with "no explanation."

Gee.

My stimulus appeared in my account with no explanation, but because I follow the news, I knew what it was.

My suspicion all along was that this hairdresser is nothing more than a rabid right-winger, which is why Senator Cruz went to her for a haircut.

 

She wanted pity for breaking the law and going to jail.  I'm sure that breaking that spending time in jail was traumatic to her, and it obviously was,  but when she said it was because the had to feed her kids my sympathy fell flat.  How did she feed her kids in jail?

I haven't been reading about any widespread food hunger or lack of ability about feeding families.  Even my barber that said she didn't pay her electric bill got food and a reprieve on paying her rent and electric bill and got a stimulus check for food.   Yes, people are struggling and not able to make ends meet but no one is starving.  The people protesting and opening businesses and breaking the law are doing so not our of hunger but out of a sense it is their right to do so and the government doesn't have a right to tell them they can't work.

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

She wanted pity for breaking the law and going to jail.  I'm sure that breaking that spending time in jail was traumatic to her, and it obviously was,  but when she said it was because the had to feed her kids my sympathy fell flat.  How did she feed her kids in jail?

I haven't been reading about any widespread food hunger or lack of ability about feeding families.  Even my barber that said she didn't pay her electric bill got food and a reprieve on paying her rent and electric bill and got a stimulus check for food.   Yes, people are struggling and not able to make ends meet but no one is starving.  The people protesting and opening businesses and breaking the law are doing so not our of hunger but out of a sense it is their right to do so and the government doesn't have a right to tell them they can't work.

The BEST part, Tweety, is she got $500,000 in Gofundme funding.

I hope people demand their money back, for FRAUD!

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5 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Well, well.

That TX hairdresser, who opened her salon illegally because she just wanted to "feed" her children?

She applied for, and received a $18,000 small business loan.

[...]

GoFundMe page created 23 April also raised $500,040.  She is donating an undisclosed amount to support others arrested for violation of the order as well.

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2 hours ago, chare said:

GoFundMe page created 23 April also raised $500,040.  She is donating an undisclosed amount to support others arrested for violation of the order as well.

I think it's interesting that the Go Fund Me page was created the day before Ms. Luther reopened her salon. 

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/dallas-salon-arrest-gofundme/

But I do commend her for reportedly helping out others. Call me a skeptic though because I'd like to see the receipts . 

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