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Did President Trump-Pence administration drop the ball?

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There are many, many 'what if' newspaper articles about the corona virus and the coming elections; all they do is fill space. It's like guessing at the beginning of a sports season, who will win the World Series or one of the 'Bowls" or any of those events. WHO KNOWS? All a bunch of hot air. 

(I just hope Crybaby Trump is not re-elected.)

There's a little old guy in this town who sets up a small stand at a crossroad, and out of his truck, he is selling home grown vegetables and jams, jellies, pickles, and boiled peanuts. He was selling MAGA caps too, but got so much flack about that he put up a sign: "This is America. Everyone can have their own opinen (sic)" ......THEN, he died his white hair an orange-ish red and sits in the sun to get a POTUS-type tan. I could not believe his 'fandom' made him dye his hair. It's pretty funny to me, but it apparently satisfies him, as he has had NO white roots for months now! I reckon if he is still alive in November, at least I know for SURE who HE will vote for.

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On 4/21/2020 at 8:00 AM, Lucylu71 said:

Ran across this on FB this morning.  Written by the mother of a fallen Navy Seal.  It captures how many of us feel about Trump.

"Sometimes God uses the no-nonsense, salty sailor to get the job done. Appreciating what the man is doing doesn't mean we worship the salty sailor or even desire to be like the salty sailor. It doesn't even mean God admires the salty sailor. Maybe He just knows he's necessary for such a time as this. I believe with all my heart that God placed that salty sailor in the White House to give this nation one more chance in November 2016. Donald Trump is what he is – and he is still the man he was before the election – and without guilt. I very much admire what that salty sailor is accomplishing. He's not like me. That's okay with me. I don't want to be like him. I will never behave like him. I know we've NEVER had a man like him lead our nation before. It's crazy and a little mind-blowing at times. But I can't help admire the stamina and ability he has – acting with his heart rather than a calculated, PC, think tank-screened, carefully edited script. I still believe that is WHY he became our President and WHY he's been able to handle a landslide of adversity and STILL pass unprecedented amounts of good legislation for our country AND do great works for MANY other nations, including Israel. I'm THRILLED with what he's doing for my nation, for the cause of Christ (whether intentional or unintentional, doesn't matter to me), and for the concept of rebuilding America and putting her FIRST. I will not be ashamed of my position because others don't see him through the same lens. Should it matter to me if a firefighter drops an f-bomb while he's pulling me from a burning building? Would I really care about what came out of his mouth in those moments? Heck no! I'd CARE about what he was DOING. He wasn't sent there to save my soul, and I'm not looking to him for spiritual guidance. All I'm thinking in those moments is, "Thank you, GOD, for sending the fireman.” AND DONALD TRUMP IS OUR FIREMAN. I'll soon post this article again for those who still might not understand me. This man is crass. Okay. He's not careful with what he says. Okay. You feel offended that he's not a typical statesman. Okay. But he is DOING THE JOB of rebuilding the nation my son died for... the nation I feared was on a fast track to becoming a hopeless cause. Forgive me if I'm smiling." Written by KAREN VAUGHN Karen Vaughn is the mother of fallen US Navy SEAL, Aaron Carson Vaughn (SEAL Team VI). Author of the best seller “World Changer” A Mother’s Story."

I have no problem with him being "salty as a sailor", and while that's a separate issue of annoyance for many, it's the substance of his policy and leadership (or lack thereof) that people have a problem with.

LBJ was by far the most crude and "salty" President in recent history, aside from frequent salty language, he was known to enjoy showing others his male member, when having a conversation with someone in the oval office he would insist that the staffer, journalist, congressperson, etc accompany him into the bathroom so they could carry on their conversation uninterrupted while he pooped, he also once stripped naked during a press gaggle on Air Force One because he said it was hot.  

Despite all of that, his political resume is commonly viewed separate from his personality 'quirks'.  I don't think Trump is held to a different standard, although to deflect from his political resume Team Trump is quick to suggest any criticism of him politically is just because people find him uncouth, rather than try to debate the substance of his presidency.

I notice that when Trump supporters try to list his successes, those examples become extremely vague, as though they're taking Trump's word for his claims of successful leadership without feeling the need to evaluate that for themselves.  It's like if my all-too-trusting grandma told me excitedly about how a used car dealer got her trade her brand new Mercedes for a used Yugo and how much she benefitted from this trade because the used car salesman told her how much better it was to have a used Yugo and she took his word for it.  

Trump defined what a successful Presidency would look like for him prior to taking office, just objectively he hasn't gotten anywhere near that definition, so I'm not sure what there is to be excited about, except that Team Trump told you that you should be excited, enjoy your Yugo I guess.  

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6 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

I find the whole grocery store experience angst ridden.

I see people standing and chatting, touching items then touching their face, wearing gloves, yet talking on their cell phone.

All of that indicates to me, that many people STILL don't understand how serious coronavirus is.

Or perhaps they falsely believe it is only a big city problem.

My downstairs neighbor is constantly out and about with her two young children. The kids have play dates, with other children.

None of that is Healthy at Home.

That behavior is treating this pandemic like nothing more than early summer break.

As the father of 3 young kids I can tell you that no parent out there got excited about the idea of a 5 month summer break.  And between being a critical care nurse in an area hard-hit by Covid and being a parent of kids right now, it's being a parent during social distancing that is by far the hardest.

There's not actually any reason why people shouldn't be leaving there homes, it's the potential exposure to viral transmission that's the issue and that doesn't rise to a level of unacceptable risk just by stepping out your front door.

Letting kids socialize, which is arguably vital to their health, is challenging to be sure.  But as both my County Health Department and State Department of Health recommend, kids should still be having 'play dates', although with some considerations.  Kids should have a defined smaller circle of friends and that circle shouldn't overlap into other play date circles, but they should still be having play dates with other kids.

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50 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I have no problem with him being "salty as a sailor", and while that's a separate issue of annoyance for many, it's the substance of his policy and leadership (or lack thereof) that people have a problem with.

That is true for some such as yourself.  However, we all know for some he can do nothing right and doesn't deserve credit for anything.  Some cant even acknowledge something is going well, such as the economy was, fir fear he might get credit for it.

Many here were criticizing and trying to take him down before he was even inaugurated.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Tweety said:

Tell that to Trump, since he tweeted his poll numbers the other day.  He loves polls, except when he's losing and then he calls them "fake polls" and reminds us the polls had him losing to Clinton.

But I. agree that at the beginning of May a poll predicting what November will bring is useless.  

I'll ignore that you stooped to Trump's level of immature name calling.  Oh well, guess I didn't.   But I reserve that right because I don't do that and in fact asked people here to stop calling Trump names like "Cheeto".

 

Sure.  I dont recall you having a problem with people referring to Trump voters as cultists and zombies, which is much more offensive then cheeto.

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The Trumpsters were out protesting at the KY Capitol again, waving their Confederate flag, etc.

Because that is what "reasonable" people do, who just want to work, right?

They protest using a symbol of bigotry and hate, because all they want to do is earn a living.

Sure.

Hey, I know where they can get a job!

There is a meat packing plant in Louisville that has had at least one employee die from Covid-19, and we know how Trump has ordered meat processors to remain open.

Instead of waving Confederate flags, gathering in a mass protest with no face masks, these folks should get an honest job processing meat.

They could be heroes helping to feed America, instead of an embarrassing and pitiful sight.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Sure.  I dont recall you having a problem with people referring to Trump voters as cultists and zombies, which is much more offensive then cheeto.

 

I've made my request about such things long ago and can't call it out every time and have given up,  so don't make that presumption just because you don't recall me having a problem with it that I don't, even if it seem hypocritical to you that I'm calling you out once.  

For the most part I think I only use the words "Trump supporters". 

I do recall a post where I was beginning to be convinced of the similarities between some of the blind devotion of some people to that of cult like behavior.  For example, the ones that state that he's sent by Christ and is a man of God.  That's about as much bullcrap cult like brain dead behavior that I can take.  

But even then I try to give Trump supporters some room and not generalize the behavior of some to all.  Republicans and Trump supporters are a wide and diverse group of people.  I'm still grappling with the idea that Republicans are keeping him and didn't choose. someone else that can advance their agenda, but it is what it is.

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8 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Many here were criticizing and trying to take him down before he was even inaugurated.

That's because he showed his true colors during the campaign during which people criticized him.

This happened to G.W. Bush too.  Remember the protests at his inauguration that "he stole from the American people". It was ugly.  

Obama too.  I distinctly remember a friend calling him the worst President of all time and he wasn't inaugurated and the fast and furious formation of the Tea Party was stunning.  Although they had no ground to stand on to "take him down" and he was unshakable.

So really, I have zero sympathy for this whine.

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8 minutes ago, Tweety said:

That's because he showed his true colors during the campaign during which people criticized him.

This happened to G.W. Bush too.  Remember the protests at his inauguration that "he stole from the American people". It was ugly.  

Obama too.  I distinctly remember a friend calling him the worst President of all time and he wasn't inaugurated and the fast and furious formation of the Tea Party was stunning.  Although they had no ground to stand on to "take him down" and he was unshakable.

So really, I have zero sympathy for this whine.

It's not a whine.  It's one snippet to a longer reply to another poster who said much of the anti Trump sentiment is based on his poor leadership and policy making.  Complaints on leadership and policy making before he took office aren't credible. 

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

 

I've made my request about such things long ago and can't call it out every time and have given up,  so don't make that presumption just because you don't recall me having a problem with it that I don't, even if it seem hypocritical to you that I'm calling you out once.  

For the most part I think I only use the words "Trump supporters". 

I do recall a post where I was beginning to be convinced of the similarities between some of the blind devotion of some people to that of cult like behavior.  For example, the ones that state that he's sent by Christ and is a man of God.  That's about as much bullcrap cult like brain dead behavior that I can take.  

But even then I try to give Trump supporters some room and not generalize the behavior of some to all.  Republicans and Trump supporters are a wide and diverse group of people.  I'm still grappling with the idea that Republicans are keeping him and didn't choose. someone else that can advance their agenda, but it is what it is.

Tweety, you are justifying your choice of words, to someone who proudly defends a man who constantly engages in name calling including the name calling of war heroes, fathers and mothers, immigrants and whoever raises his ire.

Why?

It is completely unnecessary.

If the poster is troubled by name calling, they should probably renounce their support of Donald John Trump, and get behind Justin Amash.

Amash is a True Conservative, intelligent, well-spoken, possesses a working knowledge of the Constitution, and doesn't engage in name calling.

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These are the people that Trump referred to as "good people," on Friday.

I know. Makes you think of Charlottesville, doesn't it?

From today's NY Times:

The Coronavirus Becomes A Battlecry For U.S. Extremists

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😂

It's a good thing that some Americans were able to identify incompetence, corruption and disqualifying lying in candidate Trump in 2015 BEFORE the election.  4 years later those Americans are still confronted by the ignorance and indoctrination of roughly 30% of the population who love the deeply flawed candidate (now actively screwing up the country while campaigning). 

Meanwhile, our "booming" economy was clearly not really booming for most of the country.  Last month, the wealthy got wealthier while greasing the wheels to get all hourly workers back into the factories.  Their compromised and greedy capitalists in the White House are happy to use their power to force poor Americans and immigrants to work in cramped conditions during a pandemic. 

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