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18 hours ago, luv2 said:

Okay, and why are we not getting the same suit, so we do not spread the infection. This is ridiculous. How are we expected to care for ourselves, patient, and not cover the Coronavirus if we are not given the proper medical attire as healthcare practitioners?

We certainly have shortages of the appropriate equipment, but while those full hazmats suits look impressive, they can actually contribute to the spread.  

The way those suits are used they are worn from patient to patient, which is fine if your entire patient population is confirmed COVID, but in many of the situations you see them being worn in China they were mixed patient populations, so those suits essentially become a surface vector, like a bee going from flower to flower and spreading pollen along the way.

With some pathogens, those full air-filtering suits are superior to other PPE, but that's not the case with COVID.  Effective respiratory protection (either PAPR, N-95, or M-95) is just as effective, and when moving between patients there should be removable PPE (Except in the case where all patients are confirmed positive).  

But yes, in terms of the proper PPE we're quickly running out, we're now down to using a single mask for the whole day, we're now trying to figure out how to store the staff's masks appropriately so they can be used for multiple days.

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7 hours ago, emtb2rn said:

I’m in an ed in the northeast and our protocol started as airborne precautions (n95, eye protection, gown, gloves) but we never got into donning papr & the “ebola” gear. Over the past week or so, we have been going with droplet precautions for suspected/confirmed/presumed covid cases. Which equals regular mask, eye protection, gloves & adding a gown d/t concern about virus surface lifespan (which turns out to be a thing now). We also leave a disposable thermometer & stethoscope in the room. 
 

Caveat: if the pt is on bipap or we’re intubating, then it’s n95 as the droplets become aerosolized. 
 

Here’s a link about transmission of covid-19: https://emcrit.org/ibcc/COVID19/

Keep in mind that the droplets become aerosolized just as easily when a patient coughs, if not more so, compared to intubation.  The person actually performing the intubation would be the priority for an N-95 given their face's proximity to the patient's, although I would save the N95's for those caring for a COVID patient with a persistent cough rather than having other people just in the room during an intubation wear them.

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HR told me it my decision to drive to the mandatory meeting alone, but they will not reimburse me for mileage.

I pointed out that it is recommended that when outside, we engage in social distancing and we know the virus can be transmitted when people are asymptomatic.

I also stated it is unfortunate that the HD would treat employees this way.

Yep.

The HD, engaging in unsafe practices.

Anybody surprised?

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10 hours ago, emtb2rn said:

I’m in an ed in the northeast and our protocol started as airborne precautions (n95, eye protection, gown, gloves) but we never got into donning papr & the “ebola” gear. Over the past week or so, we have been going with droplet precautions for suspected/confirmed/presumed covid cases. Which equals regular mask, eye protection, gloves & adding a gown d/t concern about virus surface lifespan (which turns out to be a thing now). We also leave a disposable thermometer & stethoscope in the room. 
 

Caveat: if the pt is on bipap or we’re intubating, then it’s n95 as the droplets become aerosolized. 
 

Here’s a link about transmission of covid-19: https://emcrit.org/ibcc/COVID19/

Thank-you. This why I appreciate this profession. I respect the way we could unite and come together. 

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2 hours ago, MunoRN said:

We certainly have shortages of the appropriate equipment, but while those full hazmats suits look impressive, they can actually contribute to the spread.  

The way those suits are used they are worn from patient to patient, which is fine if your entire patient population is confirmed COVID, but in many of the situations you see them being worn in China they were mixed patient populations, so those suits essentially become a surface vector, like a bee going from flower to flower and spreading pollen along the way.

With some pathogens, those full air-filtering suits are superior to other PPE, but that's not the case with COVID.  Effective respiratory protection (either PAPR, N-95, or M-95) is just as effective, and when moving between patients there should be removable PPE (Except in the case where all patients are confirmed positive).  

But yes, in terms of the proper PPE we're quickly running out, we're now down to using a single mask for the whole day, we're now trying to figure out how to store the staff's masks appropriately so they can be used for multiple days.

Wow!! This is sad and scary. 

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2 hours ago, MunoRN said:

Keep in mind that the droplets become aerosolized just as easily when a patient coughs, if not more so, compared to intubation.  The person actually performing the intubation would be the priority for an N-95 given their face's proximity to the patient's, although I would save the N95's for those caring for a COVID patient with a persistent cough rather than having other people just in the room during an intubation wear them.

How come we can not manufacture PPE  and whatever is needed to care for our patients in America the factories do exist. 

Why can we not manufacture our own ventilators? The technology and science exist in America. 

This a bipartisan situation.

 

 

 

All Politicians should get behind this plan? I do not think there should be a salary cap.

  

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14 hours ago, luv2 said:

How come we can not manufacture PPE  and whatever is needed to care for our patients in America the factories do exist. 

Why can we not manufacture our own ventilators? The technology and science exist in America. 

This a bipartisan situation.

 

 

 

All Politicians should get behind this plan? I do not think there should be a salary cap.

  

Trump announced yesterday, that he is invoking war powers that allows him to order factories to ramp up production.

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On 3/12/2020 at 4:38 PM, Lucylu71 said:

Those 56% are misinformed.  The single most important thing that has happened to slow the spread of the virus is the US was the travel ban Trump implemented in January.  Going by the comments from Democrats at the time, we know Biden wouldn't have done that.

Lack of enthusiasm = lack of voters.

Are you for real?????

During the period immediately following the travel ban, he needed to use it to get ahead of this. Oh, I don't know-how about ordering mass production of masks and ventilators and other PPE, utilizing the military to build field hospitals, etc? How about getting experts back to the table, believing what they say, and acting on that advice instead of always believing he knows better than experts about any given subject?  What do you maintain Trump did with the time we gained by banning travel from China?????????????? How do you justify the rationale for disbanning the pandemic team and not replacing them? How can you in good conscience continue to defend this lying, greedy, golf obsessed immoral sociopath?

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1 hour ago, Horseshoe said:

Are you for real?????

During the period immediately following the travel ban, he needed to use it to get ahead of this. Oh, I don't know-how about ordering mass production of masks and ventilators and other PPE, utilizing the military to build field hospitals, etc? How about getting experts back to the table, believing what they say, and acting on that advice instead of always believing he knows better than experts about any given subject?  What do you maintain Trump did with the time we gained by banning travel from China?????????????? How do you justify the rationale for disbanning the pandemic team and not replacing them? How can you in good conscience continue to defend this lying, greedy, golf obsessed immoral sociopath?

Hey Nurses!!!!!!!!!. As a nurse, we have the responsibility to speak up and ADVOCATE. Here goes...........

There are no PPE available in the hospital. We are told to resue them and this could potentially spread the Coronavirus. 

Nurses are being forced to report to work as long as they are asymptomatic they no longer have to quartine for 14 days only for 7 days.

I am not sure why Nurses do not have to quarantine any more.

The government is approaching this wrong. 

We must speak up and discuss this honestly.

The federal government can 

1- Have a separate hospital for Coronavirus patients.

2- Test ALL medical personnel.

3-Invest in medical equipment to sterilize hospital, parks, malls

4- Start spraying  solutions that are anti-virals

5- Test every person in  the United States of America 

6-Build there own ventilators.

7-Make there own PPE.

(The factories exist they just need the okay from the government)

8-Have a temporary living wadge adjustment given to each US citizen, resident. 

9- There are many foreign medical graduates from around the world that live in America  grant  them junior doctor status ( they could work and be on the frontlines)

10-There are many foreign nursing graduates grant them junior nursing status.

11- There are plenty of nurses who have failed the boards grant them a year temporary nursing license as nurses we need all the help it easier to train a nurse with a medical background.

 

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6 minutes ago, luv2 said:

Hey Nurses!!!!!!!!!. As a nurse, we have the responsibility to speak up and ADVOCATE. Here goes...........

There are no PPE available in the hospital. We are told to resue them and this could potentially spread the Coronavirus. 

Nurses are being forced to report to work as long as they are asymptomatic they no longer have to quartine for 14 days only for 7 days.

I am not sure why Nurses do not have to quarantine any more.

The government is approaching this wrong. 

We must speak up and discuss this honestly.

The federal government can 

1- Have a separate hospital for Coronavirus patients.

2- Test ALL medical personnel.

3-Invest in medical equipment to sterilize hospital, parks, malls

4- Start spraying  solutions that are anti-virals

5- Test every person in  the United States of America 

6-Build there own ventilators.

7-Make there own PPE.

(The factories exist they just need the okay from the government)

8-Have a temporary living wadge adjustment given to each US citizen, resident. 

9- There are many foreign medical graduates from around the world that live in America  grant  them junior doctor status ( they could work and be on the frontlines)

10-There are many foreign nursing graduates grant them junior nursing status.

11- There are plenty of nurses who have failed the boards grant them a year temporary nursing license as nurses we need all the help it easier to train a nurse with a medical background.

 

12-The could test the blood of the patient recovering Covid 19 patients to see if they built any anti-viral in their system.

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