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This story is heartbreaking. It is the story of a 32-year-old, dead from Covid-19, from CNN:

After Her Husband Died From Coronavirus, She Found An Emotional Goodbye Note On His Phone

The Trumpsters protesting for their right to infect others with a deadly virus are no more "reasonable" than members of ISIS.

But instead of beheading people in the desert, Trumpsters want the right to infect people with a deadly disease at the grocery store, gym, nail salon, hair salon and restaurants.

Fanatical and deplorable.

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2 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

You know, I wish a member of the media would have asked the Lt. Governor of Texas, to list two things he considers worse than death.

Because right-wingers have certainly latched on to Trump's Tweet: "The cure can't be worse than the disease," haven't they?

Each afternoon, when Governor Beshear reads the daily new infections and daily deaths, he reminds residents of the Commonwealth that the numbers represent real people, with families and loved ones.

He then asks Kentuckians to light a green light in their homes, because green is color of compassion.

Again, I am grateful that Andy Beshear is my governor.

Unlike the President whom as I mentioned before is not really capable of empathy, but I also think that humanizing the tragedy isn't a stance he wants to take as it gets in the way and makes us look weak, or even like we're losers.

 Pure opinion on my part but did he stop a moment and acknowledge the 50K mark?  Sure it's a low per capita number and a low death rate per infection, but still one worth taking a pause for I would think.    

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Despite the flood of words, though, what has struck me the most this week is what Trump does not talk about: the mounting toll of those who have died in this crisis. So voluble that he regularly talks well past dinnertime at his nightly briefings, the President somehow never seems to find time to pay tribute to those who have been lost, aside from reading an occasional scripted line or two at the start of his lengthy press conferences, or a brief mention of a friend in New York who died of the disease soon after calling him at the White House. “He said, ‘I tested positive.’ Four days later he was dead,” the President recounted. “So this is a tough deal.” It was not exactly the prayerful, if often politically expedient, mournfulness Americans generally expect of their elected leaders. Trump, for the most part, dispenses even with the ritualistic clichés that other politicians, regardless of party or creed, have always offered in times of crisis.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/fifty-thousand-americans-dead-in-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-a-president-who-refuses-to-mourn-them?fbclid=IwAR2xP7uQDJClMwNPAIDFNuQQAIV_2sm4ySARYr18REiT1d13CvV8olKhGUU

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6 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

This is awful.   

"Within days, three of the bags were filled with the first of 30 residents who would die there after Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s Health Department handed down its March 25 directive that bars nursing homes from refusing to admit “medically stable” coronavirus patients, the exec said."

https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/coronavirus-patients-admitted-to-queens-nursing-home-with-body-bags/

It seems the infected patients transferred to the nursing home mostly did well. Sadly the patients who died had lived there for years. Almost certainly the three who died within days of the 17 newly admitted patients they were already infected. I cannot understand how their deaths are because the home had newly admitted patients/residents.

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...   Since March 25, the Queens nursing home has admitted 17 patients from hospitals who tested positive for coronavirus, but in a bitter irony, most of them have fared well, the exec said. Those who have died passed away without a test or while awaiting the results from one.

“The rest of the people are dropping like flies — literally like flies — and most of them have been with us for years,” the exec added.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/coronavirus-patients-admitted-to-queens-nursing-home-with-body-bags/

Sadly in all states and many countries many nursing home patients and residents have died. I think too many nursing homes do not provide safe staffing. My hope is that we will do something about this some day. I do not know about the staffing at that Queens, NY facility. I also have no idea whether there was anyplace that could safely care for them last March.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Total+Nursing+home+deaths+due+to+COVID-19&t=hp&iar=news&ia=news

A discussion regarding nursing homes and COVID-19:

https://allnurses.com/nursing-homes-the-bodies-just-t718447/?do=findComment&comment=7601845

 

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7 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

They aren't promoting public health concepts.  They are standing in silence with their arms crossed.  Which in itself is confrontational. 

And the protesters aren't volunteering for nurses to be more slammed.  A vast majority were never slammed to begin with, even in the ICU and ED's.

The lockdown was sold as being necessary to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed.  They are not overwhelmed.  In many places, including where the progressive activist / strip club dj in scrubs stood in silence blocking traffic for a photo op, the hospitals never were overwhelmed.

Even in NYC, the Mercy is leaving, travel nurse contracts are being cancelled, and temporary hospitals that were built were lightly used.

People want to get on to the next step.  They dont need nurses telling them they are wrong for that.

Folded arms are confrontational?

Nice try.

How about threatening a governor?

Do you think that is confrontational?

How about showing up to protest with guns?

Confrontational?

The continued attempts to defend deplorable behavior are amusing, to say the least.

 

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I hope you all have had a chance to read this story, perhaps in other media outlets.

It demonstrates how much we still don't know about this virus.

And it makes those zombie Trumpster rallies appear even more pathetic.

From today's WaPo:

Healthy People In Their 30s And 40s Barely Sick With Covid-19 Are Dying Of Strokes

 

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Unlike the President whom as I mentioned before is not really capable of empathy, but I also think that humanizing the tragedy isn't a stance he wants to take as it gets in the way and makes us look weak, or even like we're losers.

 Pure opinion on my part but did he stop a moment and acknowledge the 50K mark?  Sure it's a low per capita number and a low death rate per infection, but still one worth taking a pause for I would think.    

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/fifty-thousand-americans-dead-in-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-a-president-who-refuses-to-mourn-them?fbclid=IwAR2xP7uQDJClMwNPAIDFNuQQAIV_2sm4ySARYr18REiT1d13CvV8olKhGUU

The US has experienced a quarter of the world's deaths, Tweety.

I attribute that to a lack of a cohesive response by federal government, with Donald John Trump at the helm.

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1 hour ago, Lil Nel said:

The US has experienced a quarter of the world's deaths, Tweety.

I attribute that to a lack of a cohesive response by federal government, with Donald John Trump at the helm.

I would have to agree.  

We are about 30% of the world's total cases.  Much of which is in New York. 

My only hope is that we can look back at our mistakes and learn and grow.  We should look back with. blame of course and to hold people accountable.  But also to understand what went wrong.

There are reasons for this that are just science.  For example we are a mobile society, one of the most visited countries in the world (3rd) with New York City being in the Top 10 most visited cities in the world.  Our relative wealth also allows us to freely travel the world.  France and Spain are the #1 and #2 most visited countries in the world.  Italy and China round out the top five most visited countries.  Is it a  coincidence then that these five countries share the lion's share of the Covid Cases?  (Along with maybe Germany whom has a high rate of testing and thus a high number of cases, but a very good per capita death rate).

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Responsible crisis management requires continual analysis of the success or failure of strategy and implementation.  We practice disaster scenarios so that we learn to do that on the fly and how to collaborate for maximal benefit under stress, right?

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Words have consequences.  From fox news via the msn aggregator. Yes, fox...

“More concerning, though, is the number of people who actually went ahead with the suggestion.

In New York City, the Daily News reported that the Poison Control Center saw 30 cases of “exposure to Lysol, bleach & other cleaners in 18 hours after Trump’s suggestion” that cleaning products might be used to treat coronavirus. NYC Poison Control saw only 13 such cases in a similar period last year.

Anna Sanders, who wrote the Daily News article, reported that no one died or was hospitalized as a result.

The Illinois Poison Center had a 36 percent increase in March in calls statewide concerning "inappropriate use of disinfectants and cleansers,” according to Danny Chun,  a communications and marketing employee at the center. “Since the president made his remarks Thursday night, we have gotten two specific cases where we got calls.”“

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/states-see-spike-in-poison-control-calls-following-trumps-comments-on-injecting-disinfectant/ar-BB13c7ai

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