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Did President Trump-Pence administration drop the ball?

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From today's NY Times, an opinion piece by Trumpster Nikki Haley, attempting to deflect any blame or criticism away from her leader:

Nikki Haley: Focus On Your Governor, Not Trump

Sure, Nikki.

While I am very grateful for my Democratic Governor, Andy Beshear, I also realize that I live in the United States of America, not the nation of Kentucky.

I understand the role the federal government must play in a disaster, such as a pandemic.

Haley's thinly veiled attempt to shield her leader is deplorable, and yet, it is exactly what I expect.

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It's deplorable that Trump allows the pitting of governors against one another, to favor Republican governors and to call other governors complainers or "that woman from Michigan".  

.States have traditionally been in charge of the healthcare systems within.  This is also in conjunction with support from the agencies within the Federal Government that is lead by the President.

Our governor was widely criticized for his late response in closing down the beaches and the state and as of this writing we have over 15,000 cases.

 I do appreciate though that he was given the leeway to look at his own individual state's situation.  Still, however, he looked to the President for support, guidance and material.  We do this after a major hurricane.  The state mobilizes before and after, but FEMA a federal organization also kicks in with help.  

Way off topic, but I long for the leadership of a President like Obama that went to New Jersey and put all the issues with his political enemy aside and helped the governor after Sandy devastated them and likewise the governor publicly thanked him despite being so vocally his adversary.  

I understand that it might be difficult to balance this kind of act and be supportive to 50 governors and more territories at once, but he's sadly failed and doesn't seem to have even tried.
 

 

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7 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Isn't it better to be over prepared in a pandemic, than under prepared?

Trump's in the crapper poll numbers should offer a lesson in being prepared.

Seriously.

I can't imagine splitting hairs over the number of ventilators to be used.

We should ALL be grateful that NY may not require all they thought they would need.

That frees up ventilators for places like Louisiana and Florida.

Good grief.

As often is the case here, once a discussion gets to point C, it is forgotten how/why it started just back at point A.  

This was started because Trump was criticized for questioning the "experts" who said NY needed 30,000 ventilators.  This being 30,000 over what they already had.

My only point was that it wasnt unreasonable for Trump to question that figure.  It turns out he was right.  Again.

And, 😂....why "split hairs".....its ok to be "over prepared".   Dont you remember?  Anti Trumpers were criticizing Trump for not providing NY with what they needed.  When, in the end they didnt need most of what they were asking for and and what Trump haters were complaining they went getting.

 

 

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On 4/7/2020 at 3:35 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

And just like that Modly is gone.  

He should probably stay away from Port cities for while now that his rank won't protect him from the sailors who were negatively impressed by his rant...

It's a bit uncomfortable to realize very clearly that our military will do whatever a corrupt authoritarian asks of them...their concept of military "honor" is clearly some fabrication on the same level as the notion of fiscal conservatism or values based conservatism. 

And his little jaunt cost American taxpayers $243,000 according to reports I have read in the WaPo and NY Post.

I know Trumpsters must be appalled by the waste of taxpayer monies.

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Fox News main headline was "US Wants Answers" shifting the blame away from Trump to WHO.  Trump treated to take away United States Funding to the Organization.  The Who shot back asking him not to politicize the situation.  

Pence says the President believes in accountability.  Excuse me while I wipe the coffee I just spit out off my screen.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mike-pence-ask-who-tough-questions-coronavirus

I did say that I would like to see a coming together of not only state, federal, but also world resources to face this situation together.   We can play the blame game and look at what we did wrong and learn some lessons.

Everyone made mistakes.  Everyone was wrong.  Everyone could have done better.  Everyone has lessons to learn.  

Democrats are extremely angry at Trump and I suppose this has put his administration on the defensive and they should hold him accountable.  But I would like them also focusing and what we can do together and working with he President to help people.  

But we're not good at that.  Rumors are that China is reopening "wet markets" which theory is that this is where it started.    

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/wuhan-is-returning-to-life-so-are-its-disputed-wet-markets

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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

Fox News main headline was "US Wants Answers" shifting the blame away from Trump to WHO.  Trump treated to take away United States Funding to the Organization.  The Who shot back asking him not to politicize the situation.  

Pence says the President believes in accountability.  Excuse me while I wipe the coffee I just spit out off my screen.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mike-pence-ask-who-tough-questions-coronavirus

I did say that I would like to see a coming together of not only state, federal, but also world resources to face this situation together.   We can play the blame game and look at what we did wrong and learn some lessons.

Everyone made mistakes.  Everyone was wrong.  Everyone could have done better.  Everyone has lessons to learn.  

Democrats are extremely angry at Trump and I suppose this has put his administration on the defensive and they should hold him accountable.  But I would like them also focusing and what we can do together and working with he President to help people.  

But we're not good at that.  Rumors are that China is reopening "wet markets" which theory is that this is where it started.    

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/wuhan-is-returning-to-life-so-are-its-disputed-wet-markets

Just more Trumpster propaganda, Tweety.

They are desperate to shift any blame away from Trump, and on to anybody else; Fauci, Obama, the individual states, China and WHO.

I seem to recall a poster on one of these threads, posting something about the WHO, previously.

Perhaps you remember the post.

With Sanders dropping out of presidential race, and Trump's poll numbers in the crapper, they will be pushing lots of propaganda to bolster their failing and flailing leader.

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On 4/5/2020 at 12:32 PM, Lucylu71 said:

You are correct.  But, there are many people not being tested who would be positive. My ER is not alone by any stretch.  As more and more testing is done, the actual death rate should decrease.

Some experts believe well below 1%.  

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

 

This article from today's NY Times, clearly demonstrates the folly of speculating on a death rate.

And that is because, in a place like NYC, which has more documented cases of COVID-19 than any other place on earth, there are still so many undocumented cases.

People are dying at home in NYC.

They are dying on the street.

The deceased are not tested for the virus.

So, how accurate are those speculations?

Anyway, here is article headline:

How Many People Have Died From The Coronavirus In NY?

 

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On 4/9/2020 at 6:44 AM, Lil Nel said:

With Sanders dropping out of presidential race, and Trump's poll numbers in the crapper, they will be pushing lots of propaganda to bolster their failing and flailing leader.

Poof....Biden's 9 point lead is gone.  Trumps approval is higher then ever.  The propaganda is working.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-and-trump-now-tied-in-race-for-white-house

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So Trump has said massive testing won't be happening.  I'm not sure necessarily that massive testing needs to occur.  But I'm also not sure now isn't a good time to the government to cut it's funding to testing sites.  

It seems Trump and Republicans are desperate to reopen the economy and I get that.  It's hurting us all.  But slowing down of testing at the height of the problem might lull us into thinking we're okay when we are not.  

I can't support the idea that he doing all he can if he does this at this time.

Thoughts?

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829955099/federal-support-for-coronavirus-testing-sites-end-as-peak-nears

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