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Did President Trump-Pence administration drop the ball?

  1. 1. Did President Trump-Pence administration drop the ball?

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Trump needs to go. . . resign. . . whatever. . . for the good of our country.

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3 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

That has been my concern since last week.  I read this op ed in the NYT a few days ago that lays it out pretty well:

"I am deeply concerned that the social, economic and public health consequences of this near total meltdown of normal life — schools and businesses closed, gatherings banned — will be long lasting and calamitous, possibly graver than the direct toll of the virus itself. The stock market will bounce back in time, but many businesses never will. The unemployment, impoverishment and despair likely to result will be public health scourges of the first order."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing.html

I definitely get this and have been thinking about it too.  I was shaped by long gas lines, the Vietnam War and the recession and double digit unemployment of the 80's.   

The fallout from what's happening now will last a generation most likely and shape the Gen Z and Gen Alpha the most.  

There's a lot to be said of herd immunity and building up antibodies rather than sterilizing everything.  

Kind of like chemo and radiation is reported by some who have cancer as worse than the disease itself prior to them dying.

Still when this article was written on the 20th it mentions 2,000 cases.  Today there are 35,200.

In modern life there isn't any precedent and we're playing it by ear.  Trump needs to somehow be realistic and reassuring at the same time.  A tough job that's obviously going to get some criticism no matter what he says.

And so it goes.........

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Trump gave a good speech on his Twitter in all caps "  STRONG & UNITED, WE WILL PREVAIL! GOD BLESS THE USA!!"  which is the type of leadership we need right now.  

Of course his next tweet was "this is why we need borders".  His tweet two hours prior was a retweet of the idea people are politicizing it to use against him and what a victim he is.   He just can't help himself. 

Guess we take what we can get.

I like that the Surgeon General came out and told the truth.  That it's bad and this week will be real bad.  

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/surgeon-general-has-coronavirus-warning-week-it-s-going-get-n1166421?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_nn&fbclid=IwAR2VoXxKWco_eM39IDcKp2CAMb7lx35hSwKJwlrM0cOHT-dfpsmCD_3hTVk

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20 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Trump gave a good speech on his Twitter in all caps "  STRONG & UNITED, WE WILL PREVAIL! GOD BLESS THE USA!!"  which is the type of leadership we need right now.  

Of course his next tweet was "this is why we need borders".  His tweet two hours prior was a retweet of the idea people are politicizing it to use against him and what a victim he is.   He just can't help himself. 

Guess we take what we can get.

I like that the Surgeon General came out and told the truth.  That it's bad and this week will be real bad.  

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/surgeon-general-has-coronavirus-warning-week-it-s-going-get-n1166421?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_nn&fbclid=IwAR2VoXxKWco_eM39IDcKp2CAMb7lx35hSwKJwlrM0cOHT-dfpsmCD_3hTVk

 

Biden Press Conference: 

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mrxmQAOYjnxy?t=102

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15 hours ago, Tweety said:

However, if the feds are sitting on a stockpile of these things they need to release them.  

But the private industry will see to it they try to fulfill their orders for this stuff as fast as they can, not only because lives on the line, but because they can make money.

As I've been saying, there is much more to our country not being more prepared then can be blamed on Trump.

"After the swine flu epidemic in 2009, a safety-equipment industry association and a federally sponsored task force both recommended that depleted supplies of N95 respirator masks, which filter out airborne particles, be replenished by the stockpile, which is maintained by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

That didn’t happen, according to Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Assn."

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-03-20/disaster-foretold-shortages-ventilators-medical-supplies-warned-about

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47 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Just another hit piece missing context.  He did say "these companies are making them now".

What's missing is that they were also talking about companies making masks, hand sanitizer,etc.  They are also missing that immediately after that comment Pence spoke for a few minutes specifically about ventilators. 

No one came away from that discussion thinking the auto makers were currently producing ventilators. 

 

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How about that Rand Paul, unapologetically spreading coronavirus?!!!

I knew something was up with him.

He attended same event as KY governor, and Congressman John Yarmouth.

Someone at event tested positive for coronavirus.

Both governor and Yarmouth announced they were tested, and results were negative.

Paul, kept his mouth shut, uncharacteristically.

Like Trump, he accepts NO RESPONSIBILITY.

 

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1 hour ago, Lil Nel said:

How about that Rand Paul, unapologetically spreading coronavirus?!!!

I knew something was up with him.

He attended same event as KY governor, and Congressman John Yarmouth.

Someone at event tested positive for coronavirus.

Both governor and Yarmouth announced they were tested, and results were negative.

Paul, kept his mouth shut, uncharacteristically.

Like Trump, he accepts NO RESPONSIBILITY.

 

Yes, he was wrong.

Interesting people reported seeing him at the gym and in the pool.  Why were any of them there?

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4 hours ago, Tweety said:

Lucylu71 said: 

There's a lot to be said of herd immunity and building up antibodies rather than sterilizing everything.  

People at High Risk don't have the luxury of time to "build up antibodies". THAT'S why sterilizing is important.

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5 hours ago, Tweety said:

Trump gave a good speech on his Twitter in all caps "  STRONG & UNITED, WE WILL PREVAIL! GOD BLESS THE USA!!"  which is the type of leadership we need right now.  

 

Nope-we don't need platitudes.  We need action to stem the spread and provide resources to hospitals, acceptance of responsibility, and real help for those economically affected by this virus.  The rest is just blowing smoke.

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32 minutes ago, BCgradnurse said:

Nope-we don't need platitudes.  We need action to stem the spread and provide resources to hospitals, acceptance of responsibility, and real help for those economically affected by this virus.  The rest is just blowing smoke.

We need a leader that lifts us up and accentuates our strength and patriotism,  so we disagree.

But don't get me wrong, I don't think he's doing a good job at all.  I just liked that one tweet.

But we agree that we need action and resources.  I'd like to think this is happening, but sadly too late and not at a rate the disease is showing up.  It's a crisis situation.

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