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Did President Trump-Pence administration drop the ball?

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On 6/4/2020 at 1:07 AM, Lucylu71 said:

Well, ok.  You can keep looking for the poster who said 5-6 if you want.  Or we can just go with the 2 million prediction, which was still wildly inaccurate. 

The 2.2 million prediction, which even the WH saw as reliable, was based on the unlikely scenario that no mitigation efforts were taken.  And based on the data we now have on the effects of delayed or insufficient mitigation measures that prediction hardly appears to have been wildly inaccurate.  

That's a bit like if you told a patient with a severe infection that without antibiotics they might die, so they agree to take the antibiotics, then they later complain they d iui didn't really need the antibiotics because they didn't die.

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50 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

The 2.2 million prediction, which even the WH saw as reliable, was based on the unlikely scenario that no mitigation efforts were taken.  And based on the data we now have on the effects of delayed or insufficient mitigation measures that prediction hardly appears to have been wildly inaccurate.  

That's a bit like if you told a patient with a severe infection that without antibiotics they might die, so they agree to take the antibiotics, then they later complain they d iui didn't really need the antibiotics because they didn't die.

Didn't the WH say 100,000 Americans would die by August?

Seems like we reached that mark in two months.

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2 hours ago, MunoRN said:

The 2.2 million prediction, which even the WH saw as reliable, was based on the unlikely scenario that no mitigation efforts were taken.  And based on the data we now have on the effects of delayed or insufficient mitigation measures that prediction hardly appears to have been wildly inaccurate.  

That's a bit like if you told a patient with a severe infection that without antibiotics they might die, so they agree to take the antibiotics, then they later complain they d iui didn't really need the antibiotics because they didn't die.

Exactly.

Everyone seems to have forgotten why this number was brought up.  In short,  I said if Trump is to blame for all that's gone wrong with the pandemic, then by the same token he should get credit that millions havent died.

 

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3 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Exactly.

Everyone seems to have forgotten why this number was brought up.  In short,  I said if Trump is to blame for all that's gone wrong with the pandemic, then by the same token he should get credit that millions havent died.

 

Did I miss the end of the pandemic? Are we done totaling the number of Americans who have died because of Trump's incompetent pandemic? Do I need to remind you that Trump's instinct was to do nothing and let this virus run its course?

You can give the dangerous authoritarian all the credit that you believe he needs.  He's definitely trying to get credit for destroying our republic...it definitely looks like he's taking advice from people like Putin on how to destabilize the country.  This domination talk is very titillating in strong man circles. 

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8 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Exactly.

Everyone seems to have forgotten why this number was brought up.  In short,  I said if Trump is to blame for all that's gone wrong with the pandemic, then by the same token he should get credit that millions havent died.

 

I think we understand that's why you brought it up,  but perhaps you might not understand that no one is agreeing with you on that point.  

For me it's more like millions didn't die in spite of Trump.  Many cities and counties closed prior to any of his recommendations, many cities stayed closed despite his called for their liberation.  This kind of stuff is what kept those numbers down.

Go with it, I've bene in the position of holding a lone opinion more than once.  😂

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10 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Exactly.

Everyone seems to have forgotten why this number was brought up.  In short,  I said if Trump is to blame for all that's gone wrong with the pandemic, then by the same token he should get credit that millions havent died.

 

WHAT CREDIT DOES TRUMP DESERVE? HE IS THE REASON WHY COVID 19 AFFECT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. HE IS THE REASON  PROTESTORS ARE BEING PEPPER SPRAYED.

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11 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Exactly.

Everyone seems to have forgotten why this number was brought up.  In short,  I said if Trump is to blame for all that's gone wrong with the pandemic, then by the same token he should get credit that millions havent died.

 

Surely, you joke.

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The need Trumpsters have to prop up their failing and falling in the polls is pathological.

And comical.

I pay them no mind.

Just point out their flawed thinking and move on.

They won't change.

They are fat, happy and well-fed, and it isn't their children the cops are killing and pulling out of cars and attacking with stun guns.

All is good in Trumplandia, for the Trumpsters.

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11 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Exactly.

Everyone seems to have forgotten why this number was brought up.  In short,  I said if Trump is to blame for all that's gone wrong with the pandemic, then by the same token he should get credit that millions havent died.

 

I credit Andy Beshear with keeping CVirus numbers lower in this state, than other states.

But to do that, our governor had to deal with armed, Right-Wingers, protesting at the State House over missed haircuts, and their so-called Constitutional right to potentially infect others with a deadly virus.

And, he was hung in effigy by these same folks, for trying to save lives.

And what did Trump do?

He fanned the flames.

Trump only deserves credit for doing what he always does: spread fear and hate.

 

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13 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

Exactly.

Everyone seems to have forgotten why this number was brought up.  In short,  I said if Trump is to blame for all that's gone wrong with the pandemic, then by the same token he should get credit that millions havent died.

 

I agree he should get credit for us not having 2.2 million deaths to this point, while considering the context of that achievement.  

If someone says they 'scaled a mountain', did they climb Everest or walk a half-a-block in the slightly uphill direction?

The Imperial College's 2.2 million death figure was based on having no mitigation efforts in place whatsoever, which they pointed out is effectively only theoretical since even a society completely abandoned by their government during a pandemic will implement measures all on their own.  

So yes, we've exceeded expectations that were so low as to be only theoretical.  

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Well, Trump's expertise and successes are sort of theoretical, so that language is validating. 

Right?

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11 hours ago, Tweety said:

I think we understand that's why you brought it up,  but perhaps you might not understand that no one is agreeing with you on that point.  

For me it's more like millions didn't die in spite of Trump.  Many cities and counties closed prior to any of his recommendations, many cities stayed closed despite his called for their liberation.  This kind of stuff is what kept those numbers down.

Go with it, I've bene in the position of holding a lone opinion more than once.  😂

The thing is, people want to argue whether the number was 2 million, 6 million, the models were this and that, etc.  They lose focus and get away from what I was talking about.  It happens all the time here.  People take one part of what I said and dont look at the post I was replying to or at any context.  They are so eager to get their shot in at the Trump voter.  Gotta feed those dopamine receptors,  I guess.  Its actually  quite hilarious.

I'm not surprised no one agrees, but you are the only one who actually did so specifocally to the point I made.

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