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50 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

AUDIO - TRUMP CALL TO GOVERNORS

This fellow is a psychopath.  This is no joke. 

You are right, baloney.

And the desperation is obvious.

Trump failed to lead on pandemic, and it is still with us.

The economy is still in the toilet due to pandemic, and Trump and McConnell refuse to lead, and are not calling for help for average Americans, beyond July.

Racism. The ugly thing that Trump embraces at every chance, has lead to rioting throughout the nation.

Trump again fails to lead, and we can all see the results.

The election is five months away, and Trump is behind in the polls, and Republicans fear losing WH and Senate.

Reasonable fears.

Trump is incapable of learning from his mistakes, as he refuses to believe he ever makes mistakes.

I have stated before that November will be a month of reckoning for Trump.

It can't come fast enough.

 

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He is a psychopath.  He has absolutely zero give a cares about human suffering or death.  He is fine with some people dying, he thinks it will make the country stronger.  

Trump's level of crazy is not to be laughed away or trifled with. When crazy people are in control of military and para-military groups, who view the citizens as expendable enemy combatants, it never ends well.  

Are any of your young relatives considering immigrating out of the USA? Wouldn't it be a terrible drain to see millions of mobile young professionals move away to start and raise their families?

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6 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

He is a psychopath.  He has absolutely zero give a cares about human suffering or death.  He is fine with some people dying, he thinks it will make the country stronger.  

Trump's level of crazy is not to be laughed away or trifled with. When crazy people are in control of military and para-military groups, who view the citizens as expendable enemy combatants, it never ends well.  

Are any of your young relatives considering immigrating out of the USA? Wouldn't it be a terrible drain to see millions of mobile young professionals move away to start and raise their families?

I thought about it.

Looked into Canada and New Zealand.

But I simply don't have the money in savings required to do so, despite having skills (healthcare) that would get me employment in either country.

This country is fast becoming a "crap hole," that Trump labeled other nations as being.

Killer cops out of control.

Riots in major cities.

Minorities under attack.

Deadly disparities in healthcare based on race and financial status.

This is the stuff of a "crap hole" nation.

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The Most Important Coronavirus Statistic: 42% Of U.S. Deaths Are From 0.6% Of The Population

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/05/26/nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities-0-6-of-the-u-s-population-43-of-u-s-covid-19-deaths/?fbclid=IwAR0SANDFQD68TSrlszbB302hNJ8HD_rR7Us5uCeJMMeHs2EZ8lIaZVjw-gY#48355c6b74cd

New York certainly has a high percentage of deaths in nursing homes. But percentage wise places like Rhode Island, Ohio, Washington and Minnesota have more.  

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On 5/23/2020 at 1:32 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

Imagine how many infections might result because the Trumpsters protesting the mitigation aren't falling through cracks, they are making cracks were there should be few. The protesters are approaching masked people, threatening to violate the 6 feet, and shouting their droplets into the public space. 

If those protesters were concerning, imagine the damage being done by those this weekend? 

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10 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

If those protesters were concerning, imagine the damage being done by those this weekend? 

Yep.

People have been discussing that.

Interesting it is a concern to you now, when you failed to mention it during the Right-Wing rallies.

But I will point out, that the BLM rallies, appear to have more folks wearing masks than the "I need a haircut, whine, whine," crowd.

You see, dude, the BLM crowd isn't protesting for the right to infect others with a dangerous virus.

The "I need a haircut, whine, whine," crowd were also protesting against the use of masks. They were protesting for their right to potentially kill.

 

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12 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

If those protesters were concerning, imagine the damage being done by those this weekend? 

What is not interesting to me, dude, is police arresting masked protesters, then taking away those masks, and keeping people locked up in close proximity. 

It is almost as though the cops are purposely endangering protesters.

Again, many of these protesters are masked and in some cases, even wearing eye protection.

Compare and contrast to Right-Wing Rambo wannabes, unmasked and armed like the militia gangs that they are.

Have you seen a BLM protester with a shoulder propelled rocket launcher?

How about AR-15s? 

I will repeat the words of Governor Beshear because Trumpsters need to read them:

You cannot fan the flames and then condemn the fire.

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12 hours ago, Lucylu71 said:

If those protesters were concerning, imagine the damage being done by those this weekend? 

Gosh...because spreading disease protesting inability to get a haircut is exactly like spreading disease protesting yet another senseless murder of a restrained black man by police.   

Thank you for that Trumpian level bit of white privilege...the white people take guns and protest closed businesses during a pandemic while the black people take their friends to protest a police sponsored murder...and the Trump supporter can't discern a difference. 

Like Trump said...what do they have to lose?

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On 5/31/2020 at 3:20 PM, Lucylu71 said:

"The governor over the following weeks defended the March 25 policy and said repeatedly that nursing homes shouldn’t accept patients if they believed they couldn’t care for them. The directive was meant to protect those infected with coronavirus from discrimination, a state official said."

It wasnt too difficult to find this WSJ article.  

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-sent-recovering-coronavirus-patients-to-nursing-homes-it-was-a-fatal-error-11589470773

The rest of this article, and the NY Post article I linked above would also make good reading for you.

There is no defense for what Cuomo did.

 

I've read both and neither mentions that the reasoning stated in the order itself had changed.  I'm not sure that it necessarily needs to be stated; that when hospital beds and more importantly staff are in short supply, you can't use hospital beds and staff to board huge numbers of nursing home residents who don't require hospital care.  I'm not sure why you think other states put out the same order.  

You seem really passionate about your disgust of Cuomo for a decision that you haven't been able to articulate an alternative.  

There's no doubt that nursing home residents, whether in New York or other parts of the US where they were hit by far the hardest of any demographic, are more susceptible to death from COVID due to a number of factors, but I'm still not clear what you're suggesting the alternative is.  

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On 5/30/2020 at 5:10 AM, Lucylu71 said:

They are also having record numbers of testing done, with most recently about 5.4% being positive.  I think you said Florida's rate of infection is 10% of those tested?  It seems Wisconsin's ability to test is a big part of the increased number of cases.

"The state Department of Health Services reported 733 new cases of coronavirus Friday, Wisconsin's largest single-day increase — by more than 100 cases — since the pandemic began.  

Friday's new cases accounted for about 5.4% of the more than 13,600 tests processed since Thursday.

That's also a new record for the number of tests run in a single day, up significantly from Thursday's record-setting number of 10,626."

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/05/29/wisconsin-sees-its-largest-single-day-increase-coronavirus-cases-and-its-first-children-multisystem/5287066002/

Wisconsin is in the near the bottom, or fewest,  of deaths per capita.  Better then Florida or Kentucky.

There isnt heat to be taken off Trump.  Especially if "hindsight is foresight ".  Liberals only want to highlight the faults and mistakes.

Some were predicting 2 million or more deaths this summer.  One poster here predicted 5-6 million.  That seems unlikely now.

If Trump is going to be blamed for all the mistakes made, then he should get credit for far fewer deaths happening then predicted.

Not "my leader ".  You've stayed out of the cultist talk in the past.  No reason to start now. 

 

 

Still not clear what you're referencing here.

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42 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

Still not clear what you're referencing here.

It's pretty self explanatory.  There were predictions of millions of deaths, and that isnt happening.

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